Comments on: A Journey To The Center Of The Self In Iceland http://www.mihaistoian.net/a-journey-to-the-center-of-the-self-in-iceland/ Ideas, testimonials and personal statements regarding spirituality, awakening of faith and aspiration to an ideal life; positive thinking and spiritual healing through yoga, defending spirituality in our present society. Fri, 18 May 2012 13:29:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: MIHAI STOIAN's Blog » Silent Retreat Iceland: January 31st – February 6th 2011 http://www.mihaistoian.net/a-journey-to-the-center-of-the-self-in-iceland/comment-page-1/#comment-112104 MIHAI STOIAN's Blog » Silent Retreat Iceland: January 31st – February 6th 2011 Fri, 04 Feb 2011 22:25:03 +0000 http://www.mihaistoian.net/?p=2527#comment-112104 [...] exactly one year since I last visited Iceland I have found myself here again, in the magical land of silence and natural beauty/inner peace. As [...] [...] exactly one year since I last visited Iceland I have found myself here again, in the magical land of silence and natural beauty/inner peace. As [...]

]]> By: MIHAI STOIAN's Blog » Love As A Perpetuum Mobile – The Secrets Of The Long Lasting Couple http://www.mihaistoian.net/a-journey-to-the-center-of-the-self-in-iceland/comment-page-1/#comment-111130 MIHAI STOIAN's Blog » Love As A Perpetuum Mobile – The Secrets Of The Long Lasting Couple Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:05:50 +0000 http://www.mihaistoian.net/?p=2527#comment-111130 [...] discovery of the Self is a fascinating adventure, a journey full of experiences which you can make either alone or not… [...] [...] discovery of the Self is a fascinating adventure, a journey full of experiences which you can make either alone or not… [...]

]]> By: carbon12 http://www.mihaistoian.net/a-journey-to-the-center-of-the-self-in-iceland/comment-page-1/#comment-41604 carbon12 Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:52:17 +0000 http://www.mihaistoian.net/?p=2527#comment-41604 @ admin thank you. it make sense what you say and i am content (for the moment, with what i know ;)) the comparison with the "lab" is great and makes me think that in fact one can study the inner world in this "lab" exactly as one is studying the laws of nature. This is very interesting, i was always thinking that you can practice some stuff and get some weird results but to look at this in a scientific way... that's very interesting. That opens another field of possibilities. Do you have some "house experiments" i can try in my "apartment lab"? @ admin
thank you. it make sense what you say and i am content (for the moment, with what i know ;) )
the comparison with the “lab” is great and makes me think that in fact one can study the inner world in this “lab” exactly as one is studying the laws of nature.
This is very interesting, i was always thinking that you can practice some stuff and get some weird results but to look at this in a scientific way… that’s very interesting. That opens another field of possibilities.
Do you have some “house experiments” i can try in my “apartment lab”?

]]> By: admin http://www.mihaistoian.net/a-journey-to-the-center-of-the-self-in-iceland/comment-page-1/#comment-41583 admin Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:39:39 +0000 http://www.mihaistoian.net/?p=2527#comment-41583 @ carbon12 You have a good intuition and you're right. It is possible indeed that you "mind your business" (or better said to do your business in a mindless state) and in this way to make silence appearing in your being. But not everyone can do this efficiently and every time. Indeed the problem is not that we are living in a noisy place, the problem is that we are getting noisy about the "place". Yet there are special situations when you can induce this silence and then you can easier figure out how to stay there in silence. It is somehow like the lab conditions that help you testing a new law and then, after you figure out how it works, you can go and apply the knowledge in the complex outside world. In a silent retreat we create "lab conditions" to figure out certain inner mechanisms (especially regarding the mind and its work). Once you have the understanding and even get the control you are able to make these operations in the daily life in an efficient way. It can be even an inner silence that will not be disturbed by the outer activity. I hope these clarifications will answer your dilemma. @ carbon12
You have a good intuition and you’re right. It is possible indeed that you “mind your business” (or better said to do your business in a mindless state) and in this way to make silence appearing in your being. But not everyone can do this efficiently and every time. Indeed the problem is not that we are living in a noisy place, the problem is that we are getting noisy about the “place”. Yet there are special situations when you can induce this silence and then you can easier figure out how to stay there in silence.
It is somehow like the lab conditions that help you testing a new law and then, after you figure out how it works, you can go and apply the knowledge in the complex outside world. In a silent retreat we create “lab conditions” to figure out certain inner mechanisms (especially regarding the mind and its work). Once you have the understanding and even get the control you are able to make these operations in the daily life in an efficient way. It can be even an inner silence that will not be disturbed by the outer activity.
I hope these clarifications will answer your dilemma.

]]> By: carbon12 http://www.mihaistoian.net/a-journey-to-the-center-of-the-self-in-iceland/comment-page-1/#comment-41243 carbon12 Sun, 24 Jan 2010 02:06:17 +0000 http://www.mihaistoian.net/?p=2527#comment-41243 It looks great the place for such retreat. The answer you gave to "cat" was very inspired .... probably you just came back from the silence ;) One think i don't get: why sitting so many days in silence to learn to be silent? can't you just shut up and mind your business and then everything fall in the right place? at least this is what i understand from being SILENT. when i start to be concerned with the whole "zoo" around me is when i start to loose it and the noise comes in. I think silence is something you are born with and we are just spoiling it with our concerns and self importance.... thanks anyway for inspiration and great taste from Iceland. Definitely i will go visit in the summer. @ isobel how did you feel when you meditate with these guys in iceland in the same time? It looks great the place for such retreat. The answer you gave to “cat” was very inspired …. probably you just came back from the silence ;)
One think i don’t get: why sitting so many days in silence to learn to be silent? can’t you just shut up and mind your business and then everything fall in the right place? at least this is what i understand from being SILENT. when i start to be concerned with the whole “zoo” around me is when i start to loose it and the noise comes in.
I think silence is something you are born with and we are just spoiling it with our concerns and self importance….
thanks anyway for inspiration and great taste from Iceland. Definitely i will go visit in the summer.

@ isobel
how did you feel when you meditate with these guys in iceland in the same time?

]]> By: admin http://www.mihaistoian.net/a-journey-to-the-center-of-the-self-in-iceland/comment-page-1/#comment-41151 admin Sat, 23 Jan 2010 07:56:10 +0000 http://www.mihaistoian.net/?p=2527#comment-41151 @ cat yes, it is the SILENCE the connect us in a mysterious way. SILENCE is the common language that all people of the planet speak if they train a little and it is uniting all humanity. the languages and the talk is agitating the mind and make us feel different from each other but when silent people feel united and the same. here is the silent retreat there are people from some very different cultures but in SILENCE we were happily the same. only in SILENCE you can hear the voice of the heart and can understand its words. SILENCE is the language of Peace... @ cat
yes, it is the SILENCE the connect us in a mysterious way.
SILENCE is the common language that all people of the planet speak if they train a little and it is uniting all humanity. the languages and the talk is agitating the mind and make us feel different from each other but when silent people feel united and the same. here is the silent retreat there are people from some very different cultures but in SILENCE we were happily the same.
only in SILENCE you can hear the voice of the heart and can understand its words.
SILENCE is the language of Peace…

]]> By: Cat http://www.mihaistoian.net/a-journey-to-the-center-of-the-self-in-iceland/comment-page-1/#comment-41093 Cat Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:26:10 +0000 http://www.mihaistoian.net/?p=2527#comment-41093 It is about the rainbow that I want to write about too :) In Romania it was a similar silent retreat at the end of the year, with the same program as yours. In the morning of the last day, they were two rainbows on the sky – the symbol of divine grace. It seems we are all connected in a mysterious and amazing way. I am so happy about that! It is about the rainbow that I want to write about too :)
In Romania it was a similar silent retreat at the end of the year, with the same program as yours. In the morning of the last day, they were two rainbows on the sky – the symbol of divine grace. It seems we are all connected in a mysterious and amazing way. I am so happy about that!

]]> By: Lia http://www.mihaistoian.net/a-journey-to-the-center-of-the-self-in-iceland/comment-page-1/#comment-40899 Lia Thu, 21 Jan 2010 11:30:55 +0000 http://www.mihaistoian.net/?p=2527#comment-40899 Dear Mihai, it seems that the nature is participating to your journey in finding the Self. The rainbows and the wonderful landscape there are inspiring to search for more inside and to search for the essence in everything. It is so great that you can do this camp in the most quiet place from the world (which now proves to be also the warmest from the aria). Thinking about all your group and the special conditions of the camp i am inspired to join your meditation program. Good luck to all of you in reveling the self! with love, Lia Dear Mihai,
it seems that the nature is participating to your journey in finding the Self. The rainbows and the wonderful landscape there are inspiring to search for more inside and to search for the essence in everything.
It is so great that you can do this camp in the most quiet place from the world (which now proves to be also the warmest from the aria).
Thinking about all your group and the special conditions of the camp i am inspired to join your meditation program.
Good luck to all of you in reveling the self!
with love,
Lia

]]> By: Isobel http://www.mihaistoian.net/a-journey-to-the-center-of-the-self-in-iceland/comment-page-1/#comment-40646 Isobel Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:20:59 +0000 http://www.mihaistoian.net/?p=2527#comment-40646 I had my lunchbreak at the same time as the last meditation. I found a quiet place and tried to connect with the meditation there, (in the hope of also experiencing the journey :-)). I created the barren volcanic landscape around me(to start in the same place as you there), the sirens from the police cars and the noises of the planes and traffic quickly faded out, and i was easily able to go inside my heart. It was a very peaceful sensation, with moments of void, the deeper i went the more i felt the exquisite beauty of my heart, i can only compare it to those feelings you have in your heart when you are falling in love - it is physical and in the same time transcending this world. I do not know if i approached the meditation in the right way, but it was certainly a beautiful experience. It is amazing me how we are really not conditioned or limited in the universe, that when we really want we have the possibilities to connect in time and in space :-) Back to work ! I had my lunchbreak at the same time as the last meditation. I found a quiet place and tried to connect with the meditation there, (in the hope of also experiencing the journey :-) ). I created the barren volcanic landscape around me(to start in the same place as you there), the sirens from the police cars and the noises of the planes and traffic quickly faded out, and i was easily able to go inside my heart. It was a very peaceful sensation, with moments of void, the deeper i went the more i felt the exquisite beauty of my heart, i can only compare it to those feelings you have in your heart when you are falling in love – it is physical and in the same time transcending this world.
I do not know if i approached the meditation in the right way, but it was certainly a beautiful experience. It is amazing me how we are really not conditioned or limited in the universe, that when we really want we have the possibilities to connect in time and in space :-)
Back to work !

]]> By: Isobel http://www.mihaistoian.net/a-journey-to-the-center-of-the-self-in-iceland/comment-page-1/#comment-40633 Isobel Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:37:17 +0000 http://www.mihaistoian.net/?p=2527#comment-40633 @ Mihai, I haven't been on your blog for a while - and i can't refrain from making comments :-) It sounds wonderful where you are, can you tell me if the location of a retreat has any impact on the outcome of the retreat - obviously it is easier to meditate if there is silence and reduced activity, but energetically if the area is barren and almost untouched it must be far easier to get into deeper states of meditation. Would it be possible for you to share your experiences there. Thank you for the posting the program, i will join the meditations when i can , and will let you know what i feel from a distance. Isobel @ Mihai,
I haven’t been on your blog for a while – and i can’t refrain from making comments :-)
It sounds wonderful where you are, can you tell me if the location of a retreat has any impact on the outcome of the retreat – obviously it is easier to meditate if there is silence and reduced activity, but energetically if the area is barren and almost untouched it must be far easier to get into deeper states of meditation. Would it be possible for you to share your experiences there.
Thank you for the posting the program, i will join the meditations when i can , and will let you know what i feel from a distance.
Isobel

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