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The chapter THE SILENT WAR gets to be very dynamic these days. It is not a coincidence since the spiritual clarifications are necessary for all of us in order to allow the spiritual revolution to begin in the world.
Shri Ajita made another move and deepens himself into his own accusations. It is now clearer what he is up to. You can read his letter here: The third letter from Shri Ajita.
You can also read my reply to this letter here: My third reply to Shri Ajita
Varianta in limba romana: Scrisoarea a treia catre Shri Ajita
For all the correspondence with Shri Ajita click here: Correspondence with Shri Ajita
April 9th, 2008
Categories: SRI AJITA STORY CONTINUES, The third letter of Ajita and my reply | Author: admin | Comments: 1 Comment |
MOTTO: daca taceai, intelept ramaneai!
Draga Ajita,
Sunt uimit ca dupa ce ai citit ceea ce ti-am scris ai continuat cu acuzatii mizerabile si nefondate.
Eu inteleg din ceea ce scrii tu ca ai cedat tentatiei (fapt care nu este nou dealtfel in lumea in care traim astazi) de a critica ceea ce nu intelegi pentru ca in acest fel ai mai multe sanse de a ramane de partea “puterii” si de a nu risca sa fii in prima linie a transformarii care vine. Inteleg si te compatimesc profound pentru aceast esec spiritual. Sper ca din tristul tau exemplu, cei lucizi vor invata ca pe calea spirituala nu este permis sa facem compromisuri chiar si daca ni se pare ca drumul transformarii este prea anevoios.
Acuzatiile tale vadesc din nou o necunoastere flagranta (mai ales pentru pozitia pe care vrei sa ti-o arogi in comunitatea internationala) a principiilor morale ale spiritualitatii. Tu faci acuzatii plecand de la presupuneri, fapt care reprezinta ori o proasta educatie spirituala ori o rea intentie si iti marturisesc ca nici nu stiu care varianta ar fi de preferat in situatia ta. In scrisorile mele de raspuns de pana acum, ti-am spus despre modul in care inteleg eu calea tantrica si ce anume am facut pentru a pune in aplicare aceste principii. Daca dupa expunerea deschisa a acestor aspecte tu consideri ca eu sunt implicat in “sex-business” ma vad nevoit sa iti reamintesc proverbul intelepciunii milenare care spune ca “cel pervers judeca lumea dupa propria sa perversitate”.
Mai grav decat atat, tu faci persupuneri si dupa aceea tragi concluzii bazate pe aceste presupuneri nefondate: “As sex business is profit oriented, you have all reasons to stimulate desire in your customers and to be attached to money.”
Ceea ce tu expui in aceste randuri nu este deloc o atitudine a unei persoane spirituale ci mai degraba atitudinea unui om plin de resentimente si avand chiar si o anumita doza de prostie. Dupa toate explicatiile pe care ti le-am dat (si ai fi putut sa ceri mai multe lamuriri daca simteai nevoia) trebuie sa fii lipsit intr-o anumita masura de inteligenta ca sa faci asemenea rationamente schioape si sa te dedai la o asemenea stare de prostitutie spirituala. Ce interese servesti tu Ajita cand faci asemenea acuzatii?
As fi putut sa cred citind primele randuri ale ultimei tale scrisori ca nu ai citit cu atentie ceea ce ti-am raspuns si te-ai cam grabit cu raspunsul tau (graba care iarasi nu este expresia unei stari de intelepciune). Insa la un moment dat faci dovada ca ai citit cu atentie ceea ce ti-am scris si chiar ai invatat cate ceva despre tantra din ceea ce ai citit. Iata pentru a te ajuta sa constientizezi acest aspect am sa pun spre exemplificare unul dupa altul doua citate, unul din prima ta scrisoare si apoi altul din ultima. Astfel se poate vedea cu usurinta cum ti-ai transformat viziunea despre tantra, fapt care ma bucura pentru ca inseamna macar ca ai citit totusi cu atentie ceea ce ti-am scris:
Tu spui in prima ta scrisoare:
“Using sexual desire to attain internal life is an extremely demanding art, where the practitioner has to be fully detached, with his mind under total control. Failing to achieve that, the practitioner will fall in external life, which is the cycle of reincarnation.”
Pentru ca apoi sa revi asupra acestei pareri si sa o nuantezi in ultima scrisoare spunand:
“But a real Tantra Yoga teacher does only use desire, controlling it better and better by means
of detachment, as to reach enlightenment by transformation of the energy of desire.”
Chiar daca ma bucura faptul ca ai invatat cate ceva despre tantra din acest dialog totusi nu pot sa nu remarc insa aceasta modificare a pareri tale care nu este nicidecum atitudinea unui om intelept. Puteai macar sa spui ca ai mai inteles inca ceva din tantra si ca din noua perspective – care este mult mai nuantata si mai cuprinzatoare (pe care ai luat-o chiar din raspunsurile mele catre tine) – mai ai si alte intrebari. Faptul ca nu faci aceasta mentiune importanta sit e faci ca ai avut inca de la inceput aceasta opinie numai pentru a iti repara o anumita imagine despre tine insuti nu iti face cinste ca om si ca profesor de yoga. Totusi se vede ca am avut dreptate sa iti raspund mai detaliat insistand asupra aspectelor spirituale pentru ca iata si tu (si poate si altii care aveau aceleasi confuzii ca si tine) ai avut de invatat. De aceea voi continua sa port acest dialog cu tine si voi continua sa detaliez raspunsurile mele in legatura cu subiectele spirituale.
Afirmatia ta cum ca: “Assuming that you are a Tantra Yoga teacher, who can believe that you will detach yourself from your profit goal in sex business when you teach? Nobody.” te contrazice chiar pe tine in afirmatia pe care o faceai in fraza precedenta. Tu spui mai intai ca un profesor de tantra se foloseste de dorinta tranformand-o gradat pentru ca sa poata sa transceanda si imediat apoi spui ca daca as fi profesor de tantra nimeni nu poate sa creada ca se poate face asa ceva?? Tu chiar nu citesti ce ai scris inainte de a trimite public asemenea greseli flagrante care te descalifica in fata celor care citesc? Se pare ca aceasta confruntare cu propriile tale inhibitii sexuale ti-a scapat de sub control si ai inceput sa faci lucruri pe care cu siguranta le vei regreta mai tarziu cand oamenii vor citi cu atentie ceea ce ai spus acum cand esti sub influenta acestor ciudatenii care iti ies din subconstient. Te sfatuiesc prieteneste sa te opresti si sa citesti inainte de mai multe ori ceea ce ai de gand sa pui pe domeniul public si chiar sa rogi un prieten care nu este atat de prins in acest joc al dorintelor inferioare si orgoliului sa citeasca ceea ce vrei sa trimiti pentru a iti da un feedback si pentru a evita viitoare greseli. In felul acesta poti sa eviti a te face de ras intr-un mod in care o sa fie mai greu sa repari mai tarziu chiar daca ai sa doresti aceasta.
Dovada ca lucrurile ti-au scapat complet de sub control vine chiar in continuarea scrisorii tale cand incepi sa te dedai la injurii si acuzatii grave pe care nici macar un om fara o educatie spirituala nu le poate poate emite fara sa fie sanctionat drept rau intentionat sau lipsit de bun simt.
Afirmatia ta “using an uncontrollable “methodology” consisting of a mish mash of techniques and so called revelations, which are not in accordance with the standards of the International Yoga Federation.” este uimitoare avand in vedere ca nici tu nu cunosti care este standardul Federatiei Internationale de Yoga care a fost incalcat de catre tehnicile si metodele pe care le folosim noi pentru simplul motiv ca un asemenea “standard” nici nu exista.
Daca acest standard ar fi existat si noi l-am fi incalcat atunci fii sigur ca cei care conduc aceast federatie ar fi reactionat promt mai demult. Tu insa intr-un mod pervers lasi sa se inteleaga ca noi am folosi tehnici si metode stranii care ar incalca un imaginar standard al federatiei Internationale. Folosirea aceluiasi limbaj insinuant fara sa aduci nici un fel de argumente te pune intr-o lumina extrem de proasta. Imi dau seama din aceasta cat de grave sunt aceste probleme cu care te confrunti si am de gand sa propun celor care doresc sa facem o serie de 7 binecuvantari pentru tine pentru a te ajuta sa iesi din acest marasm al urii si calomniei in care ai intrat de buna voie.
In plus, daca ai fi avut minimul bun simt sa studiezi ceea ce predam noi in aceasta scoala de yoga, ai fi vazut ca in realitate noi folosim aceleasi metode ca si in tratatele clasice in marea lor majoritate, iar in anumite cazuri particulare (insa foarte putine comparativ cu cantitatea imensa de cunostinte spirituale care se predau in aceasta scoala) folosim si metode esoterice care sunt mai rar intalnite si care se adreseaza unui grup restrans de initiati. Pentru aceste aspecte speciale sunt realizate selectii speciale tocmai pentru ca sa se pastreze caracterul esoteric al acestor metode. Dupa studiile mele acestea sunt modalitatile prin care se procedeaza in toate scolile esoterice in lume si nu stiu sa fi incalcat nici un fel de standard al vreunei federatii internationale. Este adevarat ca de multe ori scoala noastra a provocat in cei rigizi si obtuzi la minte unele accese de furie sau chiar excese de limbaj insa aceasta nu justifica tonul scrisorilor tale.
In ansamblu tu prezinti o atitudine dogmatica si chiar cu tendinte fanatice care sunt foarte apropiate de aceea a inghizitorilor din evul mediu. Unde este toleranta si intelepciunea yoghina? Unde este bunavointa de a face mai intai un studio aprodundat si de a discuta cu mine mai intai? Vei spune probabil ca ai asteptat un an pana sa faci asemenea afirmatii ins ate intreb: ce ai facut tu in acest an pentru a ma contacta si pentru a imi spune toate aceste indoieli si nelinisti ale tale? Raspunsul este simplu si te demasca: in tot acest timp nu ai facut nimic pentru a cunoaste mai bine acest subiect. Te-ai repezit acum sa reactionezi intr-un mod singular, cand unele persoane in slujba serviciilor secrete din Romania au publicat calomnii despre scoala noastra, reactie pe care ai avut-o nu datorita convingerilor tale ci datorita inhibitiilor tale la nivelul sexual care au fost reactivate de aceste barfe ordinare. Nu ti se pare ciudat ca tocmai acum ai reactionat si reactia ta este numai de a acuza fara nici un fel de dovezi, asa cum dealtfel sunt si calomniile pe care le-au proferat si acei “profesionisti” ai calomniei?
Ca o dovada suplimentara ca ceea ce spui este aberant, iata ca discutand cu conducerea federatiei internationale am aflat ca planul referitor la cogresul de la Bucuresti ramane la fel, ei pregatindu-se sa participe in mod direct la aceasta manifestare. Daca tu ai fi vorbit in numele lor, de ce nimeni nu te sustine? Nu iti da de gandit si aceasta situatie, sau tie iti este suficient ca afirmatiile tale sunt sustinute de calomniile proferate de anumiti indivizi dubiosi si de catre atacurile aberante ale autoritatilor romanesti?
Si inca un aspect straniu la raspunsul tau: desi te-am intrebat de doua ori tu niciodata nu faci referire si la dosarele ilegal constituite impotriva lui Gregorian Bivolaru si a inca 50 de profesori de yoga din MISA. Se intelege din aceasta ca de fapt tu esti de acord cu aceste abuzuri si ca te situezi de partea autoritatilor care au realizat acest abuz condamnat la nivel international. De ce nu ai macar curajul sa recunosti deschis aceasta parere? Explicatia pentru mine este simpla: daca ai recunoaste aceasta pozitie atunci parerile tale ar fi din start judecate altfel de catre ceilalti, stiind ca tu de faci exponentul unor criminali. Insa lasand sa treaca sub tacere aceste aspecte evdente tu speri sa abati atentia de la aspectele cu adevarat grave ale acestei situatii realizand acuzatii aberante si atacuri personale, manjite de o filozofie ieftina si superficiala. Insa asa cum ai putut sa observi din multiplele reactii pe care le-ai primit atat de la altii profesori de yoga din cadrul MISA cat si de la alte persoane care nu au nici o legatura cu scoala noastra, stratagema ta nu a tinut si ai fost demascat. Singurele persoane care continua sa te alimenteze cu calomnii si acuzatii aberante sunt cei care te-au pacalit sa le faci jocul bazandu-se pe lipsa ta de discernamant pe care din pacate, asa cum am putut vedea cu totii, o ai si ai manifestat-o din plin in aceste trei scrisori pe care le-ai scris.
Incheierea este o ipocrizie din partea ta cand spui: “I thank you for the opportunity of making more light in myself.” Ma intreb: daca dupa ce ai facut mai multa lumina in tine ai putut sa scoti asemenea aberatii pline de ura si acuzatii abjecte, cum arata interiorul tau inainte de a face lumina?
Cu profunda compasiune
Mihai Stoian
April 9th, 2008
Categories: CORRESPONDENCE WITH SHRI AJITA | Author: admin | Comments: 31 Comments |
MOTTO:
“If you had remained silent, you would have remained wiser” (folklore)
Dear Ajita,
I am surprised that after you read what I wrote to you, you continued with dirty and ungrounded accusations. From what you wrote I understand that you gave in to the temptation (by the way, nothing new about this in the world we live in today) of criticising that which you do not understand because in this way you have more chances to remain on the side of “power” and of not taking the risk to be in the first line of the coming transformation. I understand and I have deep compassion for this spiritual failure of yours. I hope that those who are lucid will learn from the sad example you are giving that it is not allowed to make compromises on the spiritual path even if we consider the path of transformation as being too difficult.
Once again, your accusations show a flagrant lack of knowledge of the moral principles of spirituality (especially considering the position you want to have in the international community). You make accusations starting from assumptions. This shows either bad spiritual education or bad intention and I confess that I do not even know which of these is preferable in your case. In the letters I have answered to you so far I told you about the way in which I understand the Tantric path and what I have done in order to apply these principles. If, after the open presentation of these aspects, you say that I am involved in “sex-business”, I see clearly that I need to remind you about the ancient saying: “The pervert one judges the world according to his own perversity”.
What is even more serious, you make assumptions and then you draw conclusions based on these ungrounded assumptions: “As sex business is profit oriented, you have all reasons to stimulate desire in your customers and to be attached to money.”
What you say here is definitely not the attitude of a spiritual person, but rather the attitude of a person full of resentments, showing even a certain amount of stupidity. After all the explanations I gave (and you could have asked for more clarifications if you feel needed) you must be lacking some intelligence since you make such limping reasoning and indulge yourself into such a state of spiritual prostitution. What interests are you serving, Ajita, when you make such accusations?
Reading the first lines of your last letter, I could have believed that you did not read carefully what I have answered to you and you just replied back in a rush (rush is also not the expression of a state of wisdom). But at a certain moment you prove that you did read carefully what I wrote to you and that you even learned something about Tantra from what you read. In order to help you become aware of this aspect, I will insert two quotes, one from your first letter and then another from your last one. Thus, one can easily notice how you transformed your vision about Tantra. I am happy about that, because at least it shows that you did read carefully what I wrote to you:
In your first letter you say:
“Using sexual desire to attain internal life is an extremely demanding art, where the practitioner has to be fully detached, with his mind under total control. Failing to achieve that, the practitioner will fall in external life, which is the cycle of reincarnation.”
In your last letter you come back to this opinion with more nuances and outline it by saying:
“But a real Tantra Yoga teacher does only use desire, controlling it better and better by means
of detachment, as to reach enlightenment by transformation of the energy of desire.”
I am really happy you understood something about Tantra from this dialogue, yet I cannot help noting that this change in your point of view is not the attitude of a wise man. You could have at least say that you understood something more about Tantra and that now, from the new perspective – which is more nuanced and more encompassing (which you have got from my answers to you) – you have more questions. The fact that you do not mention this and that you pretend you had this opinion from the beginning, only to fix a certain image about yourself does not honour you as a man and yoga teacher. Still, it is clear that I was right to give you a more detailed answer, insisting on the spiritual aspects, because you (and maybe also others who had the same confusion like you) had something to learn. This is why I will continue this dialogue with you and I will give details in my answers about spiritual subjects.
Your affirmation: “: “Assuming that you are a Tantra Yoga teacher, who can believe that you will detach yourself from your profit goal in sex business when you teach? Nobody.” is a contradiction to what you said in the previous sentence. First, you say that a Tantra teacher uses desire, transforming it gradually, in order to be able to transcend, and immediately afterwards you say that if I had been a Tantra teacher nobody could believe this is possible to be done. Don’t you read what you wrote yourself, before sending publicly such flagrant mistakes, which disqualify you in front of those who read them? It seems that facing your own sexual inhibitions is out of your control and you have started to do things which for sure you will regret later on, when people will read carefully what you wrote now, while you are under the influence of these strange things coming out of your subconscious. I friendly advice you to stop and read for several times what you plan to send out publicly. You can even ask a friend, who is not so caught up in this game of inferior desires and ego, to read what you want to send in order to give you a feedback and to avoid further mistakes. In this way you can avoid to become embarrassing in a way that will be much more difficult to be fixed later on, even if you want it.
The proof that things are completely out of your control comes from the continuation of your letter, when you start insulting and making serious accusations that not even a man without a spiritual education can say without being punished as bad intended or as lacking common sense.
You say: “”using an uncontrollable “methodology” consisting of a mishmash of techniques and so called revelations, which are not in accordance with the standards of the International Yoga Federation.” This affirmation is surprising, considering you yourself do not know any standard of the International Yoga Federation that was broken by the techniques and methods that we use, and this is because such a “standard” does not exist.
If this standard had existed and we had broken it, then for sure the leaders of this Federation would have had an instant reaction long time ago. But you, in a pervert way, mislead people into understanding that we use strange methods and techniques which break an imaginary standard of the International Federation. Using insinuations, without bringing any arguments puts you in an extremely bad light. From this I realize how serious these problems that you are facing are and I intend to propose to those who want to make a series of 7 blessings for you, in order to help you get out of this moral decay of hatred and calumny, in which you have willingly entered.
Besides, if you had had minimum common sense to study what we teach in this yoga school, you would have seen that in fact we use the same methods as in the classic treaties – most of them – and in certain particular cases (very little, compared to the huge quantity of spiritual knowledge that is taught in this school) we also use esoteric methods which are rarely found and which are for a limited group of initiates. For these special aspects, special selections are done in order to maintain the esoteric character of those methods. According to my studies, these are the ways used by all esoteric schools in the world and I do not know of having broken any standard of any International Federation. It is true, in the ones who are rigid and squared minded, our school has caused anger or even excessive use of insults, but this does not justify the tone of your letters.
All in all, you present a dogmatic attitude, even with fanatic tendencies, very close to that of the middle eve inquisitors. Where is yogic tolerance and wisdom? Where is the good will to first make a deep study and then talk to me? You will probably say you have waited for 1 year to make such affirmations, but my question is: what have you done during this year to contact me and tell me about all these doubts and anxieties you have? The answer is simple and it takes off your mask: during all this time you did not do anything in order to get to know this subject better. Now you rushed into having a reaction in a singular way, when certain people in the Romanian Secret Services published all those calumnies about our school. You had this reaction not because of your beliefs, but due to your inhibitions at the sexual level which had been reactivated by these ordinary gossips. Don’t you find it strange that you reacted just now and that your reaction is only to bring accusations without any proofs, just like the calumnies brought by those calumny “professionals”?
As a supplementary proof that what you say is absurd, talking to the Leadership if the International Federation I found out that the plan regarding the congress in Bucharest stays the same and they are preparing to participate directly to this manifestation. If you had spoken in their name, how come that nobody supports you?
Doesn’t this situation make you think, or for you it is enough that your affirmations are supported by the calumnies uttered by certain suspicious individuals and by the absurd attacks of Romanian authorities?
Another strange aspect in your answer: although I have asked you twice, you never make reference to the illegal files against Gregorian Bivolaru and 50 other yoga teachers in MISA. This leads to the understanding that in fact you agree with these abuses and that you are on the side of the authorities who made these abuses, condemned at international level. Why don’t you at least have the courage to admit openly this opinion? The explanation for me is easy: if you admit this position, then your opinions will be judged by the others from the beginning, knowing that you are the spokesman of some criminals. But if you keep silence about these obvious aspects, you hope to draw the attention from the real serious aspects of this situation, making absurd accusations and personal attacks, tarnished by a cheap and superficial philosophy. But, as you could notice from the multiple reactions received both from other yoga teachers within MISA as well as from other people that have no connection to our school, your strategy failed and your mask was taken off. The only ones who continue to feed you with absurd calumnies and accusations are the ones who tricked you into doing their game, based on your lack of discernment. Unfortunately, as we all could see, you manifested this fully in these three letters you wrote.
In the end, it is hypocrisy from you when you say: “”I thank you for the opportunity of making more light in myself.” I wonder: If after you made more light into yourself you could say such absurd things, full of hatred and absurd accusations, how does your inside looked like before the light was made?
With deep compassion,
Mihai Stoian
April 9th, 2008
Categories: CORRESPONDENCE WITH SHRI AJITA | Author: admin | Comments: 12 Comments |
Mihai Stoian,
You were very gentle last year in Kopenhagen and I was very naive.
I needed a long time to realize who you are and what your organization MISA is.
First I thought you were some special man practising an obscure form of Tantra Yoga. I proposed you my help because I know the danger of that approach.
In your respons you now admitted to be directly involved in “non-exposed” sex business.
As sex business is profit oriented, you have all reasons to stimulate desire in your customers and to be attached to money.
At the other hand you pretend to be a Tantra Yoga teacher. But a real Tantra Yoga teacher does only use desire, controlling it better and better by means of detachment, as to reach enlightenment by transformation of the energy of
desire. Assuming that you are a Tantra Yoga teacher, who can believe that you will detach yourself from your profit goal in sex business when you teach? Nobody.
So, I made a mistake considering you as a practitioner of the dangerous left hand Tantra Yoga style. You are not a Tantra Yoga practitioner at all. You are only a vulgar sex businessman using the names of “Tantra Yoga” and our
“International Yoga Federation” as an attractive cover for your controversial business activities. You systematically try to mislead people, using an uncontrollable “methodology” consisting of a mish mash of techniques and so called revelations, which are not in accordance with the standards of the International Yoga Federation.
I will advise to cancel the congress of June in Bucharest. And my conclusion is that you and your organization MISA cannot be accepted by any Yoga association.
I do not feel the need to say more, except that I thank you for the opportunity of making more light in myself.
Namaste,Shri Yogacharya Ajita
(Philippe Barbier)
Honorary Secretary of the International Yoga Federation for the European Union
President of the European Yoga Council of European Yoga Alliance
Honorary Life Member of the World Yoga Council
Member of the World Yoga Parliament
Member of the International Yoga Therapy Council
Member of the Coregroup of the Samenwerkende Yogadocenten Nederland
Director of the Raja Yoga Institute
Ilpendam, Holland
www.raja-yoga. org
April 9th, 2008
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Pentru varianta in romana apasati aici.
Motto:
“Patience strengthens the spirit, sweetens the temper, stifles anger, extinguishes envy, subdues pride, bridles the tongue, restrains the hand, and tramples upon temptations”
“Before you pick on the straw in the eye of your neighbor, take care of the big stick in your own eye”.
Dear Shri Ajita,
I have answered your first message. Please understand I also have other things to do then to answer messages on the internet. Besides, I had to structure my answer so that I make myself well understood, because I noticed that some of the ides you presented in your message were unclear and they needed a proper explanation. Now, after you read my answer, I hope that the aspects related to left or right hand Tantra, as they are understood in our school, are more clear and that you are no longer so scared by the Tantric path perspective.
Nevertheless, I want to assure you with full heart from the beginning of this message that I am open to listen to any common sense advises that you have for me. Actually, I also read very carefully your first message and I hope that the answer I gave you is at least a proof for this. So far, you have only made affirmations and I answered in detail in the previous message to the points you have outlined. I am still waiting for the advice you promised. Yet, there are certain aspects which I would like to underline regarding what you had written to me. These aspects show that although you want to help me see something, you are actually not consistent. Last year, when you were our guest, you said: “This weekend was unforgettable. The Eurocongress in Copenhagen lead by the warm energy of Adina Stoian in the service of mankind, remains in my heart.”
But this year you say you have a problem with our school, which does not follow the right path. I took care of the morality of this second affirmation in my previous message, but now I would like to ask you if this 180* shift is characteristic to a wise man? When you were enchanted by the hosts of Euroyoga Congress, we were on the same spiritual path and under the same guidance of Grieg as we are now. How come you did not say anything to me and Adina? How come you become anxious just now, when on the International Yoga Federation forum those calumnious messages appeared?
I see that you insist on the Tantric system also in this message (message which you have send in a strange rush, without waiting for the clarifications you asked from me), but considering that I have already answered you, I hope everything is more clear now. The danger that you insist upon almost obsessively – regarding the Tantric path – seems to be only in your mind, because in reality, having a well structured methodology, the practitioner progresses safely on this path. Tens of thousands of practitioners, who have obtained remarkable results on the spiritual path in this school, using this precise methodology, stand as a proof for this. Perhaps it would be a good idea for you to come and learn this system, having the openness for this. Later on, after you know it well, you can offer us the advices you keep mentioning. But I must underline that your affirmation, that the Romanian government is worried about the spiritual practice of people and this is why they attack the yoga school shows either an amazing naivety – for a man with your experience – or a hidden bad intention. Is this your conclusion, after all you could see even from the documents published on the internet by our school, regarding the abuses of Romanian authorities? This affirmation makes me smile. You say:
”Your government certainly feels that danger, but can not prove it, because they are not expert in the field. You can correct your practice and your problems will vanish as snow under the sun.”
I would like to specify one last thing regarding your affirmations about the relationship between our school and the International Federation.
From the moment we entered the International Yoga Federation we acted correctly in the favor of the Federation. The proof is the two congresses we organized in this period of time. These events (At least the congress in Bucharest) were by far the biggest events I have seen so far within the International Yoga Federation. I believe you are aware of this reality, honestly. But when it was the attempt to impose on us to organize this year a contest of so called Sport Yoga, we said that this branch is not traditional and that we do not wish to compromise yoga. In fact, we showed at that time (perhaps you remember the message Grieg sent to Swami Maitreyananda) that sportsmen often use yoga to improve their sportive accomplishments, but that yogis do not use sport in order to improve their spiritual accomplishments and not even their yoga practice. At our suggestions, the International Yoga Federation agreed to also organize in Copenhagen (when we will meet I can give you the entire file with messages from the federation), besides the Sport Yoga Contest (as this had already been announced), a contest of traditional yoga, which we then named “esoteric yoga”. In Copenhagen, you or anyone of the guests did not have a problem with this (as it can be seen from your own words, which I hope were honest). After the end of the Congress in Copenhagen, the leadership of the International Sport Yoga Federation (which is different then the International Yoga Federation) said that they disagreed with the fact that we changed the rules of the contest and added that section.
In the meanwhile, the International Yoga Federation decided that MISA should organize in Bucharest the World Congress together with the World Congress of Sport Yoga. Due to the fact that the International Sport Yoga Federation did not accept anything from what we had suggested and in order not to compromise the idea of yoga through this pseudo world championship of sport yoga, we had to renounce organizing this world championship. BUT THIS WAS OUR DECISION AND NOT THE DECISION OF THE INTERNATIONAL SPORT YOGA FEDERATION.
After this decision was taken, the decision of the International Sport Yoga Federation to no longer communicate with our Yoga School appeared. At the same time, though, in the talks I had with Swami Dayananda, president of International Yoga Federation, Swami Maitreyananda, the former president of the International Yoga Federation, Carlos Miguel, president of the European Yoga Alliance, we agreed that the International Yoga Federation will sustain an international congress in Bucharest. This congress should be put on the agenda of the international activities of the federation, but it is different from the world congress, which includes the sport yoga championship. NOTHING was mentioned in any of these discussions about what you say in these messages. This makes me wonder: IN WHOSE NAME DO YOU MAKE THE AFFIRMATION: “you must also be aware of the fact that the International Yoga Federation is not happy with MISA”? WHO GAVE YOU THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE SUCH AFFIRMATIONS WHEN THOSE RESPONSIBLE WITHIN THE INTERNATIONAL YOGA FEDERATION DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ALIKE? The final affirmation, that the IYF sustains or not our practices – which you wrongly call “left hand Tantra”, is absolutely hilarious. It was never discussed within the International Yoga Federation which practices are sustained and which are not. Moreover, the intense focus was on “unity in diversity“. Therefore, this affirmation belongs to you and it is an authority abuse.
I hope that by pointing out these things regarding your letter, I did nothing but to respect the open and honest dialogue between us. At the same time, I expect a real concern regarding the abuses in Romania, because those are real problems and the international spiritual community should look into it.
I wish you love and peace
Mihai Stoian.
March 27th, 2008
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Motto:
“patience strengthens the spirit, sweetens the temper, stifles anger, extinguishes envy, subdues pride, bridles the tongue, restrains the hand, and tramples upon temptations”
“vezi mai intai paiul din ochiul tau inainte de a cauta barna din ochiul vecinului”
Draga Shri Ajita,
Iata ca am raspuns primului tau mesaj. Trebuie sa intelegi ca eu mai am si alte lucruri de facut decat sa raspund la mesaje pe internet. In plus a trebuit sa structurez raspunsul in asa fel incat sa ma fac bine inteles pentru ca am observat ca unele idei expuse de tine in mesaj erau neclare si necesitau o explicatie corespunzatoare. Acum dupa lecturarea raspunsului meu sper ca aspectele legate de tantra, de mana stanga sau de mana drepta asa cum sunt intelese in scoala noastra s-au mai lamurit si nu mai esti atat de speriat de perspectiva caii tantrice.
Totusi vreau sa te asigur cu toata convingerea inca de la inceputul acestui mesaj ca sunt deschis sa ascult orice sfaturi de bun simt pe care mi le vei da. Dealtfel ti-am citit cu mare atentie si primul mesaj si raspunsul pe care l-am dat cred ca macar aceasta o dovedeste. Pana acum insa ai facut aproape numai afirmatii si la singurele argumente ti-am raspuns in detaliu in mesajul anterior. Astept in continuare acele sfaturi promise.
Sunt totusi iata anumite aspecte pe care as vrea sa ti le arat despre ceea ce mi-ai scris, aspecte care arata ca desi vrei sa ma ajuti sa sa vad ceva totusi tu insuti nu esti consecvent. Anul trecut cand ai fost oaspetele noastru afirmai: “This weekend was unforgettable. The Eurocongress in Copenhagen lead by the warm energy of Adina Stoian in the service of mankind, remains in my heart.”
Anul acesta insa iata ca tu spui ca ai o problema cu scoala noastra care nu merge pe calea cea dreapta. De moralitatea acestei a doua afirmatii m-am ocupat in mesajul trecut insa acum as vrea sa te intreb daca aceasta schimbare la 180 de grade este caracteristica unui om intelept? Atunci cand tu ai fost incantat de gazdele Euro Congress noi tot pe aceeasi cale spirituala ne aflam si sub aceeasi indrumare a lui Grieg. Cum de atunci nu mi-ai spus nimic nici mie nici Adinei? Cum de aceasta ingrijorare apare exact acum cand pe forumul federatiei internationale de yoga au aparut acele mesaje calomnioase?
Desi vad ca si in acest mesaj (pe care l-ai trimis cu o graba stranie fara sa astepti lamuririle pe care mi le-ai cerut) insisti asupra sistemului tantric, avand in vedere ca am raspuns deja sper ca totul este mai clar acum. Primejdia asupra careia insisti aproape obsesiv in ceea ce priveste calea tantrica se pare ca este numai in mintea ta pentru ca in realitate avand o metodologie bine structurata practicantul avanseaza sigur pe aceasta cale. Marturie stau si zecile de mii de practicanti care au obtinut rezultate remarcabile pe calea spirituala in aceasta scoala folosind aceasta metodologie precisa. Poate nu ar strica sa vii si sa inveti acest sistem cu deschidere si apoi dupa ce il vei fi cunoscut temeinic sa ne oferi si sfaturile de care tot amintesti.
Trebuie insa sa punctez ca afirmatia ta cum ca guvernul roman este ingrijorat de practica spirituala a oamenilor si din aceasta cauza ataca scoala de yoga dovedeste ori o naivitate uimitoare pentru un om cu experienta ta ori o disimulata rea vointa. Oare asta sa fie concluzia ta dupa tot ceea ce ai putut sa vezi chiar si din documentele publicate pe net de catre scoala noastra in ceea ce priveste abuzirile autoritatilor romane? Ma faci sa zambesc cu aceasta afirmatie:
Tu spui:
“Your government certainly feels that danger, but can not prove it, because they are not expert in the field. You can correct your practice and your problems will vanish as snow under the sun.”
O ultima precizare as vrea sa fac in legatura cu afirmatiile tale referitoare la relatia scolii noastre cu federatia internationala.
Inca de la momentul in care noi am intrat in federatia internationala de yoga noi am activat cu corectitudine in favoarea federatiei. Dovada sunt cele doua congrese pe care le-am organizat in acest interval si care evenimente (cel putin congresul din Bucuresti) a fost de departe cel mai mare din ceea ce am vazut pana acum in Federatia Internationala de Yoga. Cred ca in mod onest iti dai seama de aceasta realitate. Atunci insa cand s-a cautat sa ni se impuna sa organizam anul acesta un concurs de asa zisa YOGA SPORTIVA noi am afirmat ca aceasta ramura nu este una traditionala si ca nu dorim sa compromitem yoga. Dealtfel am aratat atunci (poate ca iti amintesti mesajul care a fost trimis de Grieg lui Swami Maitreyananda) ca sportivii adeseori se folosesc de yoga ca sa isi imbunatateasca perfomantele sportive insa yoghinii nu se folosesc de sport pentru a isi imbunatati realizarile spirituale si nici macar practica yoga. La sugestiile noastre a fost acceptat de catre Federatia Internationala de Yoga (iti pot pune la dispozitie cand ne vedem tot dosarul cu mesaje de la federatie) ca sa facem la Copenhaga, pe langa concursul de yoga sportiva (pentru ca acesta era deja anuntat) si yoga traditionala pe care atunci l-am numit “yoga esoterica”. La Copenhaga nici tu si nici unul dintre invitati nu au avut o problema cu aceasta (asa cum se vede si din propriile tale cuvinte care sper ca au fost sincere). Dupa incheierea congresului de la Copenhaga cei din conducerea Ferederatiei Internationale de Yoga Sportiva (care este diferita de federatia internationala de yoga) au spus ca nu sunt de accord ca noi am modificat regulamentul concursului si ca am adaugat acea sectiune.
Intre timp Federatia Internationala de Yoga a decis ca MISA sa organizeze la bucuresti congresul mondial impreuna cu campionatul mondial de yoga sportiva. Datorita faptului ca Federatia Internationala de Yoga Sportiva nu a acceptat nimic din ceea ce noi am sugerat si pentru ca sa nu compromitem ideea de yoga prin acest pseudo campionat mondial de yoga sportiva, am fost nevoiti sa renuntam la a mai organiza acest campionat mondial. INSA ACEASTA A FOST DECIZIA NOASTRA SI IN NICI UN CAZ A FEDERATIEI DE YOGA SPORTIVA. Ulterior acestei decizii a aparut hotararea Federatiei de Yoga Sportiva de a nu mai comunica cu scoala noastra. In acelasi timp insa in discutiile pe care le-am avut direct cu Swami Dayananda, presedintele Federatiei internationale de yoga, cu Swami Maitreyananda, fostul presedinte al Federatiei internationale, Calros Miguel, presedintele Aliantei Europene de Yoga, am convenit ca totusi Federatia Internatinala de Yoga sa sustina la Bucuresti un congres international inscris in agenda activitatilor internationale ale federatiei insa diferit de congresul mondial care contine si campionatul de yoga sportiva. In nici una dintre aceste discutii nu a fost menitonat NIMIC din ceea ce spui tu in aceste mesaje, fapt care ma face sa ma intreb: IN NUMELE CUI FACI TU AFIRMATIA: “you must also be aware of the fact that the International Yoga Federation is not happy with MISA”? CINE TE-A AUTORIZAT SA FACI ASEMENEA AFIRMATII CAND FACTORII RESPONSABILI AI FEDERATIEI INTERNATIONALE DE YOGA NU AU SPUS NIMIC ASEMANATOR?
Ultima afirmatie ca IYF sustine sau nu practicile noastre, pe care tu in mod gresit le numesti “de mana stanga”, este de-a dreptul hilara. Niciodata in federatia internationala de yoga nu s-a pus problema ce practici sunt sustinute si ce practici nu sunt sustinute. Mai mult chiar s-a lucrat sub ideea forta “unitate in diversitate”. De aceea afirmatia aceasta iti apartine si este un abuz de autoritate.
Sper ca punctand aceste lucruri despre scrisoarea ta nu am facut altceva decat sa sprijin dialogul deschis si sincer dintre noi. De asemenea astept o reala preocupare despre situatia abuzurilor din Romania pentru ca acelea sunt problemele reale asupra carora comunitatea spirituala internationala trebuie sa isi indrepte atentia.
Iti doresc iubire si pace
Mihai Stoian
March 27th, 2008
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MOTTO:
ABSOLUT TOTUL ESTE PUR PENTRU ACELA CARE ESTE PUR
A INTELEGE CU ADEVARAT TOTUL INSEAMNA A IERTA TOTUL
Draga Shri Ajita,
Va multumim pentru scrisoare si pentru grija aratata pentru scoala noastra de yoga cat si pentru ajutorul pe care intentionati sa ni-l oferiti si care este oricand binevenit. Punandu-ma in locul Dumneavoastra va inteleg ingrijorarea si de aceea as dori sa lamuresc pe cat posibil anumite aspecte astfel incat sa se reduca acest sentiment chinuitor de discomfort cu privire la persoana mea si la scoala noastra. Trebuie insa sa realizati ca aceasta stare pe care o incercati nu este armonioasa pentru Dvs si arata ca aveti nevoie de ajutorul nostru, pentru ca in ceea ce ne priveste noi nu avem asemenea stari de perturbare si cand vedem ca ceva nu este in regula manifestam starea de compasiune si detasare si in nici un caz nu ramanem tulburati.
Voi lua acum pe rand aspectele prezetate pentru ca sa putem sa le lamurim cat mai bine pe fiecare in parte. Iata una din afirmatiile Dumneavoastra:
“You explain how bad people attack you and your organization and you speak of calumnies against you. But that is disturbing me. Because you cannot deny you are involved in sex business, as proved for me by the presence of a sex shop on your congress of Kopenhagen, where everybody could see and buy pornographic material, books or sex toys.”
Incep cu vesti bune si anume ca puteti fi linistit in ceea ce priveste vanzarea de material pornographic la un presupus sexshop in cadrul congresului European de yoga de la Copenhaga: nici unul dintre buticurile care au fost autorizate sa desfasoare activitati comerciale la intrarea in salile congresului nu a fost un sexshop. Am verificat personal atat listele cu materiale puse in vanzare in acele zile cat si prin discutii directe cu directorii acelor firme si m-am asigurat ca nu a fost asa. A trebuit sa fac aceasta pentru ca asa cum stiti eu a trebuit sa plec imediat dupa dechiderea congresului si dupa conferinta pe care am tinut-o chiar la inceput si am vrut sa ma asigur ca ceea ce ati semnalat nu s-a petrecut dupa ce am plect eu. Singurele materiale cu nuanta erotica care au existat in acea incinta pe toata durata celor trei zile de congres au fost cele aduse de Kubera Tantric Butik si au fost numai unele jucarii sexuale ca acelea mentionate in Kama Sutra. Nici urma de reviste, carti sau filme cu character pornografic asa cum ati spus. Chiar si asa, acele jucarii nu se aflau la vedere ci intr-o cutie care putea sa fie ceruta de catre persoanele interesate. Initiativa acelui butik apartine unui profesor din scoala noastra care preda tantra si care a considerat ca din moment ce noi vorbim in anumite cursuri de tantra despre armonia sexuala in cuplu si asemenea jucarii sexuale sunt mentionate in lucrari celebre cum ar fi Kama Sutra, cei interesati pot sa le aiba la dispozitie pentru ca sa nu trebuiasca sa mearga sa caute in sex shop-uri unde se gasesc si alte materiale. Echipa de organizare a congresului le-au cerut insa celor de la Kubera sa tina acele jucarii numai pentru cei care solicitau in mod explicit aceasta si nu pe taraba. Totusi daca inca mai aveti anumite intrebari puteti sa intrati in dialog direct cu Andronicus Torp, directorul firmei respective, la adresa andronicus@natha.dk.
“The essence of your problem, Mihai, is that you are busy with an own form of Tantra Yoga, which has been transmitted to you by Grieg Bivolaru. And you still believe the man.”
Aceasta parte a scrisorii ma surprinde si sper sa fie numai adresarea stangace intr-o limba diferita de cea materna cauza acestei afirmatii. Ma intreb totusi cum poate sa fie esenta problemei mele faptul de a imi urma ghidul spiritual? In ce carti ati citit ca un discipol care isi urmeaza ghidul spiritual are din aceasta cauza o problema esentiala. Din cate se afirma in toate tratetele fundamentale ale intelepciunii, problemele esentiale apar atunci cand discipolul nu isi urmeaza maestrul intr-un mod corespunzator. Si evident pentru ca sa iti urmezi maestrul la modul practic, trebuie sa crezi in el si in veridicitatea afirmatiilor sale. Forma de tantra yoga pe care mi-a predat-o ghidul meu spiritual Grieg este o forma TRADITIONALA si eu personal am verificat aceasta comparand ceea ce am invatat de la el cu lucrari traditionale de yoga si tantra. Pentru mine (ca si pentru foarte multi altii) deja nu mai este o problema de a il crede sau nu pe Grieg pentru ca acum pentru mine autenticitatea acestor invataturi este o chestiune deja demonstrata atat de aceste studii pe care le-am realizat dar mai ales de experientele pe care eu le am pe aceasta cale asa ca afirmatia ca “tu inca il crezi” nu isi are rostul. Experienta spirituala pe care am acumulat-o ma edificat din plin ca acest om are dreptate. Mai mult m-am convins ca insusi marele Model Divin care a fost Iisus propovaduieste aceeasi cale atunci cand EL da parabola talantilor. Ma uimeste faptul ca doriti sa ingropati talantul “energiei sexuale” pe care chiar Dumnezeu ni l-a dat si nu vreti sa il inmultiti pentru mai binele spiritual. Chiar daca nu va intereseaza calea tantrica merita sa va raportati la invatatura lui Iisus pentru ca din ceea ce eu am verificat si practic aceste doua cai sunt identice. In plus si in scoala noastra se preda continenta sexuala care este mentionata in toate tratatele yoghine sub numele de Brahmacharya.
Si in plus daca aceasta este problema esentiala atunci de ce nu ii adresati lui Grieg aceste intrebari in mod direct pentru ca sunt convins ca el ar fi incantat sa va raspunda? Eu sunt convins ca aceasta abordare ar fi scutit multe intrebari in mintea unora si ar aduce multe revelatii.
Voi continua insa cu raspunsul pe care l-ati solicitat. Dumneavoastra afirmati:
“Maybe you could start wondering about this, knowing that sexual desire is a very dangerous thing to handle, especially when dealing with beginners. Therefore, in ancient times, the Rishi’s (reference “Science of Soul” by Swami Yogeshverananda Sarasvati) have described the difference between Bahirmukhi Vritti (energy vibrations leading to external life) and Antarmukhi Vritti (energy vibrations leading yo internal life), which are called commonly the left path and the right path.”
Aici sunt total de accord si mai mult chiar as avea de adaugat ca in lucrarile tantrice se insista asupra necesitatii de a avea un ghid spiritual ca o conditie esentiala pentru ca sa poti sa realizezi cu succes aceasta diferentiere dintre cele doua tendinte intr-un mod practic si eficient. Totodata este stiut ca metodologia tantrica ne pune la dispozitie “ustensilele” practice prin care persoanele care oricum se afla proiectate catre exterior sa poata sa intoarca aceasta tendinta catre interior prin procesul complex al transmutarii si sublimarii potentialelor inferioare in forme superioare de aspiratie.
In continuare spuneti ca:
“Using sexual desire to attain internal life is an extremely demanding art, where the practitioner has to be fully detached, with his mind under total control.”
In deplica cunostinta de cauza imi permit sa spun ca aceasta afirmatie a ta contine greseala cea mai frecventa pe care o fac cei care vor sa inteleaga tantra yoga fara a o experimenta practic si fara a avea un ghid spiritual care sa ii initieze in aceste mistere. Pentru a sublinia cu usurinta unde se afla eroarea iata cateva intrebari ajutatoare:
Daca cineva este complet detasat si mintea sa este total sub control atunci ce l-ar mai tine captiv in “lumea exterioara”? De ce nu s-ar retrage el catre lumea infinit mai nuantata si bogata in semnificatii care este in interiorul sau? Si in acest caz, ce nevoie ar mai avea acela ca sa foloseasca orice metoda (nu neaparat tantra) pentru a obtine “lumea interioara” din moment ce inca de la inceput indeplineste conditiile fundamentale pentru aceasta?In relitate cel care este in aceasta situatie nu ar mai avea nevoie sa apeleze la metode speciale pentru ca sa se orieteze catre interior. Ori aceste metode folosite in tantra sunt menite tocmai pentru aceia care inca nu au ajus la acest nivel si ele vizeaza tocmai trezirea acestor capacitati: de perfecta detasare si control mental.Si in continuare cele afirmate mai sus se confirma:
“Failing to achieve that, the practitioner will fall in external life, which is the cycle of reincarnation.”
Cine este plin de atasamente si are mintea nefocalizata cade oricum mereu si mereu catre lumea exterioara si aceasta fara nici un fel de tehnici tantrice! Daca nu ar fi asa atunci am fi gasit deja solutia pentru ca oamenii sa ramana mereu la viata interioara: interzicerea oricaror procedee tantrice si eliminarea sexualitatii ar garanta ramanerea noastra la interior din moment ce tentatiile sexualitatii sunt cauza caderii catre exterior!
Ori se stie foarte bine ce au patit sistemele spirituale care au facut aceasta grava eroare de a elimina fortat si fara nici un fel de discernamant aspecte fundamentale ale vietii umane cum este sexualitatea. Faptul ca cel atasat si nefocalizat cade catre exterior este cauza inlantuirii in Samsara si ea nu apartine unei cai spirituale anume ci apartine oricui se afla in aceasta situatie. A pune problema in acest fel este ca si cum am spune ca pentru ca un om sa poata evolua spiritual cu adevarat el trebuie sa fie eliberat spiritual! Sau un exemplu simplu: e ca si cum ai spune ca pentru a invata sa inoti trebuie sa inoti foarte bine! Sper ca acest exemplu este suficient. Dealtfel cum ar putea cineva sa cada in Samsara daca nu ar avea inca niste atasamente fata de aceasta. Si daca aceste atasamente sunt inca acolo cel mai indicat este ca persoana respectiva sa practice intens. Ocolind aceste incercari doar pentru a ne mentine intr-o iluzorie perspectiva de interior nu reprezinta nimic altceva decat o amanare neinceata si iresponsabile a acestui deznodamant tragic fara a ne lua nici o masura pentru a il preveni.
Noi nu putem sa creem dorinta acolo unde ea este transcensa iar acolo unde dorinta inca exista in interiorul fiintei ea va iesi mai devreme sau mai tarziu la iveala cu efecte deseori devastatoare pentru viata spirituala a fiintei in cauza. Punand insa problema in mod deschis oamenii au ocazia se cunoasca mai profund si daca vor constata ca inca mai au atasamente fata de placerile inferioare atunci au la dispozitie metodologia tantrica pentru ca sa poata sa se transforme intr-un mod real si profund prin sublimarea finala a dorintelor in altceva net superior si spiritual. Tantra indica intotdeauna aceasta atitudine ca fiind cea mai justa atitudine pentru a reusi sa depasim problemele si atasamentele fata de viata exterioara. Evident ca aceasta poate sa functioneze numai impreuna cu metodologia tantrica si tocmai de aceea noi nu incurajam de exemplu erotismul fara metoda adecvata care sa permita transmutarea si sublimarea impulsului sexual in forme superioare si non sexuale de energie.
In plus sa nu uitam ca in traditia estica avem exemplul lui Krishna care a facut dragoste cu cele 16000 de fecioare si chiar si sistemul hatha yoga este de factura tantrica, el reprezentand de fapt yoga uniunii polaritatilor HA si THA.
Where is your practice Mihai, when you stimulate sexual desire in everybody walking by, without distinction, and even more, asks money for your sex tools? Is that not dangerous and a clear sign of attachment?
Faptul ca oamenii au dorinte sexuale nu ni se datoreaza noua sau dumnevoastra. Acesta este un aspect care exista in mod natural. Asa cum stiti deja fiecare om pervers si limitat judeca lumea dupa propriile sale perversitati. Insa PENTRU CEL PUR TOTUL ESTE PUR.
In acest context te intreb: ce este mai periculos: sa eviti sa te confrunti cu ceea ce deja ai in tine? Sau sa inveti cum sa procedezi si apoi sa te confrunti cu acele tendinte care oricum mai devreme sau mai tarziu vor trebui sa fie rezolvate in ciuda amanarilor noastre pudibonde?
Este un semn de atasament sa iei in considerare o problema sau sa o eviti?A lua in considerare problema nu neaparat implica atasamentul insa a evita cu incapatanare cu siguranta implica repulsia. Asa cum ne spune si Patanjali repulsia are aceeasi natura cu atasamentul. Este ilustrativa pentru aceasta povestea celor doi calugari: Doi calugari, unul mai tanar si altul mai batran se intorceau la manastire dintr-un pelerinaj. Pe malul unui rau pe care trebuiau sa il treaca in calea lor au gasit o femeie care i-a rugat sa o ajute sa treaca apa. Calugarul cel tanar a strigat la femeie certand-o ca li se adreseaza lor, unor calugari. Fara nici o vorba cel mai batran dintre calugari a luat femeia in brate si a trecut apa cu ea. Pe celalalt mal, fara sa spuna un cuvant a lasat femeia jos si a plecat mai departe. Dupa cateva ore de mers intr-o tacere apasatoare calugarul cel tanar a izbucnit cerandu-i socoteala celui in varsta pentru ca a luat femeia in brate si astfel a incalcat conduita calugarilor. Batranul a zambit si a spus: “eu am luat femeia de pe un mal si am lasat-o pe celalalt mal insa tu o porti inca in mintea ta datorita obsesiilor tale”. Totodata in aceasta afirmatie pe care o faceti imi permit sa semnalez si o incalcare a principiilor morelei yoghine. Conform cu ce criterii puteti sa judecati practica mea sau a scolii noastre prin intrebari retorice atata timp cat nu ati urmat cursurile acestei scoli? Cate ore ati petrecut studiind cursurile noastre? Cate persoane care au practicat ASA CUM TREBUIE SI IN MOD PERSEVERENT ati cunoscut si le-ati analizat cu atentie rezultatele?Facand abstractie de codul moral eu as intelege aceste afirmatii in contextul in care in scoala noastra s-ar vorbi despre sexualitate tot timpul sau intr-un mod predominant. Insa pentru informarea ta in curriculumul cursurilor din primii 10 ani de curs de yoga (aproximativ 480 de cursuri tiparite) se vorbeste despre sexualitate in maxim 10 dintre ele. A spune ca aceasta este o problema denota o atitudine exagerat pudica. Va rog sa studiati intregul program de activitati al scolii Natha (al carei oaspete ati fost) care este afisat pe website-ul scolii si sa imi spuneti care este ponderea activitatilor spirituale referitoare la sexualitate in contextul general al activitatilor scolii? Veti avea o mare revelatie constatand ca de fapt nu este prea mult accent pe acest subiect. Este bine sa va bazati pe fapte atunci cand emiteti judecati de valoare.
Totusi faptul ca in aceasta scoala noi vorbim foarte deschis despre viata sexuala si cum poate sa fie aceasta integrata din punct de vedere spiritual nu reprezinta un secret. In acest context unii dintre cei care predau yoga si tantra in aceasta scoala au initiat anumite proiecte (printre foarte multele proiecte pe care le desfasuram in scoala pe langa cursurile de yoga si tantra) care sunt menite sa descrie o alternativa la sexualitatea inconstienta si degradanta pe care de obicei oamenii o practica, practica ce are implicatii nebanuite dar foarte grave asupra vietii lor spirituale.
Scopul acestor proiecte este prezentarea modului in care oamenii pot integra in mod constient si spiritual continenta sexuala ca metoda de inceput pentru reintegrarea experientelor sexuale in viata spirituala. Sunt constient ca unele dintre aceste initiative sunt revolutionare insa daca nu am fi avut in spate multi ani de practica si de rezultate spirituale nu ne-am fi permis sa pasim pe acest drum. Si suntem constienti de riscul de a fi gresit intelesi de catre cei care se afla inca in mrejele dorintelor lumesti si vad lumea prin prisma propriilor lor obsesii. Dar intotdeauna exista riscuri cu privire la ideile profund transformatoare ale vietii.
Asa cum stiti drama in care se afla multi oameni la ora actuala nu este cauzata de faptul ca nu stiu ceea ce le face rau ci este cauzata de faptul ca ei nu pot sa faca aproape nimic pentru a se smulge din atasamentele placerilor lumii exterioare. Sa nu uitam ca oamenii inca mai cumpara tigari nu pentru ca sunt orbi ci pentru ca sunt incapabili sa reziste atractiei gigantice catre tentatiile exterioare. Oricat ar fi de frumoase cuvintele pe care le vom spune, marea majoritate vor avea mari probleme sa urmeze o cale ascetica – de refuz categoric a lumii simturilor. Si aceasta pentru simplul motiv ca nu au pregatirea si forta necesara pentru aceasta ascensiune in forta. Pentru toti acesti oameni – care reprezinta o majoritate la ora actuala, in aceasta epoca a decadentei spirituale – Tantra Yoga reprezinta o cale catre Dumnezeu care este in mod practic accesibila. Acesti oameni prinsi in mrejele propriilor dorinte nu trebuie sa se mai pacaleasca refulandu-si in subconstient tendintele inferioare pentru ca pe aceasta cale au metodele practice pentru a constientiza acele tendinte si a le sublima in aspiratii superioare spirituale fara a fi nevoie sa mai treaca prin experientele traumatizante ale ratacirii de la calea catre Dumnezeu. Tocmai de aceea pe calea tantrica majoritatea oamenilor nu sunt deloc infricosati de a aborda subiecte care in mod normal sunt un tabu pentru asceti. Cei care merg pe calea spirituala tantrica abordeaza viata deschis si fara prejudecati. Aceasta nu inseamna absolut deloc ca fac numai ceea ce vor ei indifferent de consecinte. Tocmai de aceea Tantra spune ca “totul este cu putinta insa nu orice este permis”.
Simplul fapt ca vorbim deschis despre aspecte care pentru unii raman tabu ii face pe cei care vor sa profite de pe urma scolii noastre sa vrea sa exploateze teama si neintelegerea corecta a acestor subiecte de catre marea masa. In acest scop ei arunca informatii trunchiate si chiar aberante pe piata bazandu-se pe confuzia deja existenta.Scrisoare continua cu afirmatia:
“My problem now is that I doubt you can recognize the danger of your lack of knowledge about Tantra Yoga. I hope that you can recognize this and act in consequence. For that I am ready to help you. Coming to Bucharest on your special invitation will then be a pleasure for me, giving me the opportunity to explain you more.”Cu tot respectul vreau sa va atrag atentia ca afirmatia ca nu avem cunostintele necesare in domeniul Tantra Yoga este o alta incalcare a principiilor moralitatii spirituale atata timp cat nu ati avut inca ocazia sa ne cunoasteti in mod direct si sa puteti studia cat de mult sau cat de putin se cunoaste despre tantra yoga in aceasta scoala. Daca este sa judecam o scoala dupa repetenti si cei care pica examenele nu facem altceva decat sa ne expunem ridicolului. Stiu ca intelegeti ce vreau sa spun pentru ca am remarcat intr-o replica pe care ati acordat-o prof dr. Holger Lutich pe acelasi forum al Federatiei Internationale cum ii puneati chiar dvs la indoiala competenta de a judeca MISA atata timp cat nu o cunostea foarte bine. Ati afirmat acolo: “Anyway I do not understand that you admit not knowing MISA very well, but still are in favour of defending that organisation.”
Va rog sa fiti consecvent cu propriile principii.
Trecand peste aceasta greseala (pe care am punctat-o in virtutea unui dialog deschis pe care l-am angrenat aici) trebuie sa va spun ca sunteti oricand binevenit (asa cum ati fost si pana acum) la congresul pe care il vom organiza la Bucuresti sub patronajul Federatiei Internationale de Yoga. Noi suntem convinsi ca din dezbateri constructive se poate naste adevarul.
Pentru noi este totusi curios faptul ca desi am aratat atatea aspecte flagrante de incalcare a drepturilor omului in Romania, desi stiti foarte bine ca Roamania este tara cu cele mai multe condamnari la Curtea Europeana a Drepturilor Omului de la Strasbourg, totusi motivul de ingrijorare il reprezinta aceste aspecte care iata, odata explicate apar nesemnificative. Oare nu arata aceasta un atasament de lumea exterioara a iluziilor create de propriile noastre proiectii?
Ce tratat al intepepciunii milenare spune ca oamenii nu au voie sa isi urmeze calea lor proprie catre Dumnezeu? In procesele de la Bucuresti, instructori yoga sunt acuzati intr-un mod aberant de trafic de persoane, frizand absurdul kafkian. Cat va trebui sa continue aceste procese in Bucuresti pentru ca persoanele din mediul spiritual sa ia atitudine ferma dincolo de calea particulara pe care ei se afla?
Va rog in aceasta directie sa cititi acuzatiile pe care statul Chinez le aduce membrilor miscarii Fallung Gong. Veti observa o izbitoare asemanare. Cu toate acestea, acolo, pentru ca exista interesul politic de a forta regimul comunist, se ia atitudine in sprijinul miscari respective. Cred ca sunteti de accord cu mine ca nu trebuie sa avem victime printre practicantii yoga din Romania pentru ca sa cerem cu fermitate la cele mai inalte forumuri mondiale ca aceste abuzuri si atacuri la adresa scolii de yoga MISA SA INCETEZE.Asteptam si in aceasta directie cel putin aceeasi ingrijorare si sprijin pentru ca este mare nevoie de el acum cand peste 50 de instructori de yoga romani sunt tarati in fata instantelor de judecata. Ei sunt judecati cu anumite dosare penale pentru care Romania este criticata la scena deschisa la nivelul administratiei europene. Ca o ultima dovada in sprijinul afirmatiilor pe care le-am facut despre abuzurile impotriva miscarii yoga din Romania iata cum a interpretat presa din romania scrisoarea Dvs: s-a afirmat ca Federatia isi retrage sustinerea Congresului de la Bucuresti si chiar ca ati anuntat ca personal nu doriti sa participati la Congres. Aceasta interpretare tendentioasa a spuselor dvs de catre unele ziare din Romania (care sunt sustinute din umbra de fortele aservite regimului de control statal) trebuie sa va faca sa va ganditi daca nu cumva se incearca folosirea dvs pentru a se ataca din nou scoala de yoga prin compromiterea imaginii sale.Pentru ca toate aceste situatii sa fie evitate cel mai bine ar fi sa cunoastem adevarul asa cum este PRIN EXPERIENTA DIRECTA SI NU LUANDU-NE DUPA BARFE.
Pentru a crea oportunitatea de a ne intalni in atmosfera spiritualitatii pure, lansam invitatia catre toti cei care doresc sa participe la acest Congres International de Yoga sa vina cu inima deschisa si sa cunoasca scoala gazda, MISA. Astfel sa nu mai apara aceste neclaritati generate de anonimii si barfitorii rauvoitori.
Va asteptam pe toti cu drag la Bucuresti
Va doresc Iubire in Inima si Pace in Minte
Mihai Stoian
Secretar Onorific al Federatiei Internationale de Yoga pentru Tarile Scandinave
Reprezentant al Federatiei Internationale de Yoga si Meditatie ATMAN
March 27th, 2008
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Apasati aici pentru varianta in romana a articolului.
Motto:
For the one that is pure absolutely everything is pure
Truly understanding everything means to forgive everything
Dear Shri Ajita,
Thank you for your letter and for your concern for our yoga school, as well as for the help you intend to offer us and which is always welcome. If I put myself in your place, I understand your concern. This is why I would like to clarify as much as possible certain aspects, so that this tormenting feeling of discomfort regarding me and our school will decrease. Please become aware that the state you experience is not harmonious for you and it shows that you also need to reconsider our suggestions because I do not have such states of distress and when I notice that something is not right I manifest rather a state of compassion and detachment and definitely I do not remain uneasy about it.
Now I will take in turns the aspects presented so that we can clarify each of them as well as possible.
Here is one first statement from your letter:
“You explain how bad people attack you and your organization and you speak of calumnies against you. But that is disturbing me. Because you cannot deny you are involved in sex business, as proved for me by the presence of a sex shop on your congress of Kopenhagen, where everybody could see and buy pornographic material, books or sex toys.”
I will start with the good news. You can relax with regard to selling porn material at a presumed sex-shop within the European Yoga Congress in Copenhagen: none of the shops authorized to sell their products at the entrance to the halls of the congress was a sex shop. I checked myself the lists with the materials they were going to sell in those days and I also spoke directly with the managers of those companies and I made sure it was not like that. I had to do that because, as you know, I had to leave the works of the congress immediately after the opening festivity – after the conference I kept in the beginning. I wanted to make sure that what you have indicated would not happen after I had left. The only materials of erotic nature that existed in that building during the three days of the congress were the ones brought by Kubera Tantric Butik and they were just some sex toys like the ones mentioned in the Kama Sutra. There were no porn magazines, books or movies, as you have said. Even so, those toys were not visible, but they were in a box available only to those interested. The initiative of that shop belongs to a yoga teacher in our school who teaches also Tantra. He considered that since at certain tantric courses we speak about sexual harmony within a couple, and since such toys are anyway mentioned in famous works such as the Kama Sutra, those who were interested could have them at their disposal, so that they would not have to go and look for them in the sex shops, where there are also other materials. And more, the team that organized the congress asked from the Kubera shop to keep those toys only for those who asked for them, and not exposed. Still, if you have more questions, you can contact directly Andronicus Torp, the manager of that company, at email adress andronicus@natha.dk.
“The essence of your problem, Mihai, is that you are busy with an own form of Tantra Yoga, which has been transmitted to you by Grieg Bivolaru. And you still believe the man.”
This part of your letter surprises me and I hope the cause of this strange affirmation is only the ungainly use of a language different then your mother tongue. Still, I wonder how the essence of my problem can be the fact that I follow my spiritual guide. In which books have you read that a disciple who follows his spiritual guide has an essential problem because of this? From what it is clearly stated in all basic treaties of wisdom, essential problems appear when the disciple does not follow his spiritual master properly. And, of course, in order to practically follow your spiritual master, you must believe in him and in the truthfulness of his affirmations. The form of Tantra Yoga that my spiritual guide Grieg had taught me is a TRADITIONAL one. I checked this myself, comparing what I have learned from him with traditional yoga and Tantra works. For me (as well as for many others) it is no longer a problem to believe Grieg or not, because now for me the authenticity of these teachings is a matter already proven, both by these studies I have already made, and also by the experience I have on this path. Therefore the affirmation “You still believe him” is pointless. The spiritual experience I have accumulate so far has made it clear for me that this man is right. Moreover, I became convinced that these traditional teachings are fitting with the ones taught by the great Divine Model which was Jesus when He gives the parable with the coins. I am surprised that you wish the burry the “coin” of sexual energy, which God had given to us, and that you do not want to multiply it for the spiritual good – as in the parable given by Jesus. Even if you have no interest for the Tantric path, it is worthwhile at least to relate to Jesus’ teachings, because from what I have checked and from what I practice, these paths are identical from this perspective. Besides, we also teach sexual continence in our school, which is mentioned in all yogi treaties as Brahmacharya.
Moreover, if this is the essential problem, then why don’t you ask these questions directly to Grieg? I am sure he will be happy to answer you. I am convinced that this approach would have saved many questions in the mind of some people and it would bring many revelations.
I will carry on and answer your message. You say:
“Maybe you could start wondering about this, knowing that sexual desire is a very dangerous thing to handle, especially when dealing with beginners. Therefore, in ancient times, the Rishi’s (reference “Science of Soul” by Swami Yogeshverananda Sarasvati) have described the difference between Bahirmukhi Vritti (energy vibrations leading to external life) and Antarmukhi Vritti (energy vibrations leading yo internal life), which are called commonly the left path and the right path.”
I totally agree with this. Moreover, I would like to add that Tantric works insist on the necessity to have a spiritual guide as an essential condition, in order to be able to realize successfully this differentiation between the two tendencies, in a practical and efficient manner. At the same time, it is well known that Tantric methodology gives us the practical “tools” through which the people who are anyway projected in the outside will be able to turn this tendency towards the inside through the complex process of transmutation and sublimation of the inferior potential into superior forms of aspiration.
You continue:
“Using sexual desire to attain internal life is an extremely demanding art, where the practitioner has to be fully detached, with his mind under total control. “
Knowing what it is all about, I can be allowed to say that in this affirmation you make the most common mistake made by people who want to understand Tantra yoga without practical experience and without the spiritual guide who can initiate them in these mysteries. To easily underline the error, here are some helping questions:
If somebody is completely detached and his mind is under total control, then what would still keep him trapped in the “outer world”? Why wouldn’t he withdraw into the infinitely more nuanced world, rich in significances, which is inside him? And in this case, why would he still need to use any methods (not necessarily Tantric) in order to obtain “the inner world”, since from the very beginning he fulfills the fundamental conditions for this?
In reality, the one who is in that situation would not need to use special methods in order to go inside. Therefore the methods used in Tantra are meant for those who did not reach this level yet. They (the methods) aim exactly to awaken these abilities: of complete detachment and total mental control.
In the following, what has been said above is confirmed:
“Failing to achieve that, the practitioner will fall in external life, which is the cycle of reincarnation.”
Whoever is full of attachments and has the mind unfocused will anyway fall over and over again towards the “outer world”, and he does this without any Tantric techniques! If this was not so, then we would have already found the solution for people to remain always in the inner life: forbidding any Tantric procedures and removing sexuality would guarantee that we remain inside, since the temptations of sexuality are the cause for falling in the outside!
But it is well known what happened to spiritual systems that made this serious mistake: to forcefully and without any discernment try remove fundamental aspects of human life, such as sexuality from the spiritual path. The fact that the one who is attached and unfocused falls in the outside world is the cause of being chained into Samsara and it does not belong to a certain spiritual path but to anybody who is in this situation. To put the problem like you put it is like saying that in order for a person to truly evolve spiritually he should be spiritually liberated! Or a simpler example: it is like you say that in order to learn to swim you need to swim very well! I hope this example is enough! Actually, how can somebody fall into Samsara if he did not have some attachments to it? And if these attachments are still there, the best things the respective person can do is to practice intensely and face those attachments. Avoiding these trials just to keep ourselves in an illusory inside oriented illusion is nothing else but to constantly and irresponsibly postpone this tragic end, without taking any measures for preventing it. We cannot create desire where it is already transcended, and where desire still exists within the being it will come out to the surface sooner or later, sometimes having devastating effects for the spiritual life of the respective person. But dealing with this problem openly, people have the chance to know themselves more profoundly. If they will notice they still have attachments to inferior problems, then they have the Tantric methodology at their disposal, so that they can really and profoundly transform themselves through the final sublimation of desires into something completely superior and spiritual. Tantra always indicates this attitude as being the most rightful one in order to succeed to overcome problems and attachments to exterior life. It is obvious that this can work only together with proper Tantric methodology. Therefore, we do not encourage, for example, eroticism without the adequate method which allows transmutation and sublimation of the sexual impulse into superior and non-sexual forms of energy.
Besides, let’s not forget that in the eastern tradition we have the example of Krishna who made love to the 16 000 virgins. And even the Hatha Yoga system is of Tantric nature, representing in fact the union of polarities Ha and Tha.
“Where is your practice Mihai, when you stimulate sexual desire in everybody walking by, without distinction, and even more, asks money for your sex tools? Is that not dangerous and a clear sign of attachment?”
The fact that people have sexual desires is not due to us or to you. This is an aspect that exists naturally. As you already know, each pervert and limited person judges the world by his own perversities. But, FOR THE ONE THAT IS PURE EVERYTHING IS PURE.
In this context I ask you: what is it more dangerous, to avoid facing what you already have inside of you? Or to learn how to deal with and then to face those tendencies which anyway, sooner or later, will have to be solved despite our coyly postponing? Is it a sign of attachment to take a problem into consideration, or to avoid it?
Taken a certain problem into consideration does not necessarily imply attachment. But, stubbornly avoiding it certainly implies repulsion. As Patanjali tells us, repulsion has the same nature as attachment. The story of the two monks is significant for this: Two monks, one young and the other one old were coming back to the monastery from a pilgrimage. On the bank of a river they were about to cross they met a woman that asked them to help her cross over the water. The young monk shouted at the woman, telling her off for approaching them, as they were monks. Without saying a word, the oldest monk took the woman in his arms and crossed her over the water. On the other bank of the river, the old monk put the woman down without saying a word and continued to walk. After a few hours of walking in heavily silence, the young monk burst out, asking the old monk why he had taken the woman into his arms, thus breaking the monks’ code of conduct. The old monk smiled and said: “I took the woman from one bank of the river and left her on the other bank, but you still carry her in your mind, due to your obsessions”.
At the same time in the affirmation you make I noticed also a breach of the yogic moral code. According to which criteria can you judge my practice or that of our school by asking rhetorical questions as long as you have not followed the courses of this school? How many hours have you spent studying our courses? How many people have you met that have practiced yoga PROPERLY AND PERSEVERINGLY in this yoga school? Have you analyzed the results they had carefully?
But skipping the moral code aspect I would even understand some of your above affirmations if in our school sexuality would be a constant or predominant topic. But, for your information, in the curriculum of the courses from the first 10 years of yoga (approximately 480 printed courses), in maximum 10 of them only it is spoken of sexuality. To say that this is a problem shows an exaggeratedly chaste attitude. Please study the entire program of activities of Natha Yoga School (the guest of which you were), which is published on the website of the school and tell me what is the percentage of spiritual activities regarding sexuality, considering the general context of the school? You will then have a great revelation, seeing that we do not stress so much on this subject. It is better to rely on facts when you emit valuable judgements.
Nevertheless, the fact that in this school we speak very openly about sexual life and how it can be integrated from the spiritual point of view is not a secret. In this context some of those who teach Yoga and Tantra within this school have initiated certain projects (among many of the projects we have going on in the school, besides the Yoga and Tantra classes) meant to describe an alternative to the unconscious and degrading sexuality which people usually practice. And as we know this kind of unconscious sexuality has unsuspected but very serious implications upon their spiritual life. The aim within these projects is to present the way in which people can integrate consciously and spiritually the concept of sexual continence as a starting method for reintegrating sexual experiences in the spiritual life. I am aware that some of these initiatives are revolutionary but if we did not have as a base the many years of spiritual practice and spiritual results we would not have afforded to walk this path. And we are aware of the risk to be misunderstood by those who are still under the spell of worldly desires and who see the world through the lenses of their own obsessions. But this is always the risk with the ideas that transform profoundly the life.
As you know, the drama of many people nowadays is not due to the fact that they do not know what harms them, but it is due to the fact that they cannot do almost anything to snatch themselves from the attachments to pleasures of the exterior world. Let’s not forget that people nowadays are still buying cigarettes on which there are printed pictures of people dying from smoking! They are still buying the cigarettes not because they are blind but because they are unable to resist the gigantic attraction toward the exterior temptations. Whatever beautiful words we will say, most people will have big problems to follow an ascetic path – that of total refusal of the world of senses. And this is for the simple reason that they do not have the necessary training and force for this powerful ascension. For all these people – who represent a majority in the present moment, in this age of spiritual decay – Tantra Yoga is a path towards God, which is practically accessible. These people caught under the spell of their own desires should not fool themselves anymore by repressing into their subconscious the inferior tendencies because on this path they have the practical methods to become aware of those tendencies and to sublimate them into superior spiritual aspirations, without the need to go through the traumatizing experiences of going astray from the path towards God. This is why, on the Tantric path, most people are not afraid at all to approach subjects which are normally taboo for the ascetics. Those who walk the spiritual Tantric path approach life openly and without prejudices. This does not mean at all that they do only what they want, no matter the consequences. That is why Tantra says that “everything is possible but not everything is allowed”.
The simple fact that we speak openly about aspects which for some remain taboo makes the ones who want to benefit from our school, to wish to exploit peoples’ fear and misunderstandings regarding these subjects. For this, they throw on the market half-information and even absurd information, counting on the confusion that already exists on those subjects.
You continue you letter with this affirmation:
“My problem now is that I doubt you can recognize the danger of your lack of knowledge about Tantra Yoga. I hope that you can recognize this and act in consequence. For that I am ready to help you. Coming to Bucharest on your special invitation will then be a pleasure for me, giving me the opportunity to explain you more.”
With all due respect, I want to draw your attention and to tell you that your affirmation that we do not have the necessary knowledge regarding Tantra Yoga is once again breaking the spiritual moral principles, since you did not have the chance to know us directly and to be able to study how much or how little it is known about Tantra Yoga in this school. If we judge a school by those who repeat the class and who failed their exams, we do nothing but to become ridiculous. I know you understand what I mean, because I noticed in a reply you gave to Prof. Dr. Holger Lutich, on the same forum of the international yoga federation how you doubted his ability to judge MISA as long as he did not know it very well. You said there:
“Anyway I do not understand that you admit not knowing MISA very well, but still are in favour of defending that organisation.”
Please be consistent with your own principles.
Moving over this mistake (which I have underlined due to an open dialogue we have engaged into here), I must tell you that you are always welcome (as you have always been) to the congress we will organize in Bucharest, under the International Yoga Federation’s patronage. We are sure that truth can come out of constructive debates.
Nevertheless, for us it is strange the fact that although we have shown so many flagrant aspects of breaking human right in Romania, although you know very well that Romania is the country with most convictions at the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, yet the reason of your concern is represented by these aspects, which once explained, appear insignificant, as you can see. Doesn’t this show an attachemnt to the exterior world of illusions created by our own projections?
Which treaty of ancient wisdom says that people are not allowed to follow their own path towards God? In the law trials in Bucharest, yoga teachers are absurdly accused of human traffic, in a way similar to Kafka’s absurd style. How long must those trials in Bucharest must still continue until people from the spiritual environment will stand up firmly, beyond the particular path they are on?
For this, please read the accusations the Chineese government has against the members of Fallung Gong movements. You will notice striking similarities. Nevertheless, there, because there is political interest to force the China’s communist regime, something is being done to support the respective movement. I believe you agree with me that we do not need to have victims among yoga practitioners in Romania in order to ask firmly and urgently from the highest worldwide authorities for these abuses and attacks against MISA yoga school to STOP!
In this direction we expect at least the same concern and support, because it is much needed now, when more then 50 romanian yoga teachers are taken to court. They are judged with certain law files for which Romania is criticised openly by the European Administration. As a last proof for the affirmations I made about the abuses against the Yoga movement in Romania, here is how the press has interpreted your letter: It was said that the Federation withdraws her support for the congress in Bhucarest and even that you have personally announced that you do not wish to participate in the congress. This tendentious interpretation of what you said by some romanian newspapers (which are supported from behind the scenes by forces within the state control regime) must make you wonder whether they are trying to use you in order to make new attacks against the yoga school by compromising its image.
In order for all these situations to be avoided it is best to know the truth as it is BY DIRECT EXPERIENCE AND NOT BY FOLLOWING SOME GOSSIPS.
In order to create this opportunity to link all of us on the field of genuine spirituality we invite everyone who wants to participate in this International Yoga Congress to come with an open heart and to know also the host school, MISA. Thus, these unclarities generated by anonimous and bad intended gossipers will no longer exist.
We look forward to seeing all of you in Bucharest
Wish you Love in the Heart and Peace in the Mind
Mihai Stoian
Honoray secretary of International Yoga Federation for Scandinavian countries
Reprezentative of ATMAN International Federation foor Yoga and Meditation
March 27th, 2008
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Dear Mihai Stoian,
Thank you for your mails.
The warmth of your welcome in Kopenhagen last year is still in my memory.With growing concern I have taken notice of your situation. Especially because I would like to attend the congress you organize in Bucharest in June and wish to help you. But now I have an uncomfortable feeling about you, making me hesitant to come.You explain how bad people attack you and your organization and you speak of calumnies against you. But that is disturbing me. Because you cannot deny you are involved in sex business, as proved for me by the presence of a sex shop on your congress of Kopenhagen, where everybody could see and buy pornographic material, books or sex toys.The essence of your problem, Mihai, is that you are busy with an own form of Tantra Yoga, which has been transmitted to you by Grieg Bilovaru. And you still believe the man. Maybe you could start wondering about this, knowing that sexual desire is a very dangerous thing to handle, especially when dealing with beginners. Therefore, in ancient times, the Rishi’s (reference “Science of Soul” by Swami Yogeshverananda Sarasvati) have described the difference between Bahirmukhi Vritti (energy vibrations leading to external life) and Antarmukhi Vritti (energy vibrations leading your internal life), which are called commonly the left path and the right path. Using sexual desire to attain internal life is an extremely demanding art, where the practitioner has to be fully detached, with his mind under total control.
Failing to achieve that, the practitioner will fall in external life, which is the cycle of reincarnation.
Where is your practice Mihai, when you stimulate sexual desire in everybody walking by, without distinction, and even more, ask money for your sex tools? Is that not dangerous and a clear sign of attachment?My problem now is that I doubt you can recognize the danger of your lack of knowledge about Tantra Yoga. I hope that you can recognize this and act in consequence. For that I am ready to help you. Coming to Bucharest on your special invitation will then be a pleasure for me, giving me the opportunity to explain you more.
Greetings to Adina.
Namaste.Yours friendly,
Shri Yogacharya Ajita
(Philippe Barbier)
Honorary Secretary of the International Yoga Federation for the European Union
President of the European Yoga Council of European Yoga Alliance
Honorary Life Member of the World Yoga Council
Member of the World Yoga Parliament
Member of the International Yoga Therapy Council
Member of the Coregroup of the Samenwerkende Yogadocenten Nederland
Director of the Raja Yoga Institute
Ilpendam, Holland
www.raja-yoga. org
March 26th, 2008
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