LIES IN COURT AND THEIR RESULT: INJUSTICE


I write this here for all those who naively believe that a liar can only harm himself and therefore we have to let him do whatever he wants. As you can see a LIAR will also harm the people around him, he will become a danger for himself and even a danger to society.

The LIES that Karsten Brask Fischer told under oath in court were the ones that gave birth to the “MONSTERS” that we announced in the other article SLEEP OF REASON CREATES MONSTERS: the injustice was made based on the false declaration that he gave in  court! The court decided to give the right to the law-firm.

In Romania there is a saying: “who will steal today an egg, will steal an ox tomorrow.”

Well, seeing what is happening in this situation i am warning against the intentions this person is having: now he LIED in front of the court and under oath, in the presence of four of the people who witnessed all that he previously said. If this is the “egg” he starts his LIAR career with (it is a dinosaurs egg) then we can expect some exceptional LIES coming from him.

If up until now he was just lying to his friends and attacking them publicly, now he is going to the next level and things are more complex.

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To resume the situation for those who came later: Karsten hired a law-firm that was not doing the job they were asked to do. Karsten was the one who started to complain about the work of the lawyers to the board of NATHA and it was decided (based on his declarations and clear facts he was showing to all of us) that it was not fair to pay all the bills issued by the law-firm, as they were immense compared with the work they did! That decision was STRICTLY OUT OF THE PRINCIPLE OF JUSTICE AND NOT BECAUSE OF THE MONEY! (as a proof Natha already paid 75% of the total amount unjustly requested by the law-firm).

Then Karsten makes a written declaration where he describes the whole case and makes a stand for the principle  of  Justice.

A few days later, after meeting some people that determine him to change his opinion, he decided to go and make an agreement with the law-firm to testify for them IF THEY LET HIM OFF THE LEGAL COURT CASE! The next days the court case against Karsten is cancelled and NATHA is brought in front of the court for the same issue, THIS TIME WITH KARSTEN AS A WITNESS.

IN THE COURT KARSTEN COMES AND DECLARES THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT HE TOLD NATHA’S BOARD SEVERAL  TIMES, THE OPPOSITE THAT HE HAD WRITTEN BY HIMSELF.

BASED ON HIS DECLARATION THE COURT DECIDES TO ASK NATHA TO PAY THE LAW-FIRM THE REST OF THE 25% OF THE MONEY FOR THE BILLS, IN A DECISION THAT IS AN ACT OF INJUSTICE!

But the sad thing is that the court took the decision forced by the fact that the law-firm was bringing the key-witness who closed the case! AND THE WITNESS WAS THE LIAR KARSTEN BRASK FISCHER.

I hope that this story will wake up some naive people that think that a small lie is inoffensive. This is also how Karsten started, with small innocent lies, and he ended up by being an outlaw, an infractor who has no scruples. (These are not attacks or judgments, they are the description of the situation he is getting unconsciously into without considering all the advice his friends are giving him).

I bet he will start to reply to these lines on the forums where he tries to ”wash” his image and lure some “believers”  into his lies so that he creates the impression that he was right. Probably he will invoke all kind of aspects that are irrelevant in order to divert the attention from the answers he owes to himself and the other people around him. If so, he is not doing anything good for his image because everyone started to see that his personal problems are the cause of all that happened.

Karsten, if there is any decency left in you, please stop your insane trip that is taking you lower and lower on the human scale and is making all that you were once aspiring to – vanish as a pile of ash in the wind of LIES you tell. Do not drag all that you loved into this effort to appear something else than you are. Nobody was judging you, it is just necessary for you to accept the truth as it is and not to try to twist it and create all kind of phantasmagoric theories that fit your imagination. Understand that for a liar any revelation of his lies feels as a judgment. And also to not forget that you were the one who started all this and now all you have to do is to see that and accept the consequences. You were the one who left the ashram “just to have silence to raise your child”. You were the one who invented “Jesper” and attacked me and the school without even talking with me once since you left (and please don’t ask again about the evidence from the newspaper that you are Jesper :) ). You were the one who initiated the talk with me about the problems you had in the relationship with Celia and thanked me for the advice after. You were always the one who was telling the story and gradually … you started to get caught into it. The last events show that you are ON THE WRONG PATH AND FOR YOU IT IS NOT LEADING TO SOMETHING GOOD. Until now it was at the level of some hurt pride but now it becomes a serious problem. Your lies will grow and affect more the ones you love, you will start to loose the jobs because nobody will hire such an unstable and versatile person, and you will completely close your heart IF YOU CONTINUE THIS. I am telling you these things here in hope that you can see something and you will start thinking. Don’t forget that your image is not giving you so much as your heart is giving. 

But if in all this process you have been through there was anything i was doing wrong I APOLOGIZE and i hope you can FORGIVE. This is what i want to say until now. Now you decide how you want to continue. But be aware that all you do has consequences.

Wish you all Love and Peace




NEW: The sleep of reason creates monsters


Last week I was given the occasion (I cannot say unfortunately because it was a good lesson for me) to see one of the persons who little more than a year ago pretended to be my friend, lying in court about the yoga school without any problem! And he was committing this cowardly act driven by fear and the feeling of revenge. I could have also named this chapter “JESPER STRIKES BACK” because it was KARSTEN BRASK FISCHER who was the lying witness in court!

I will give some explanations about this case since I find it a highly significant example and also because of the very big audience (according to the internet traffic) of the “WHO IS JESPER?” lecture. (I am even considering putting some parts on YouTube).

However, let’s start with the beginning of this hallucinating story. All the information is taken from the documents presented in the court and from situations that I encountered personally. I will make the story as short as possible while still taking into consideration all the details because he is able to deny the conclusions due to some simplifications we made.

In the Bhoga case in 2005, it was Karsten who chose the law firm to represent us. Later on he also chose the same law firm in the creation of the structure of a foundation. He worked with these lawyers for a while, also in other cases, and after a while he started to tell me that they are not really what we needed and that he didn’t trust them. After attending one meeting with Karsten and the lawyer who was taking care of this foundation building, I was shocked to discover that they had not prepared the files they were supposed to study before the meeting. After I heard that they were charging us a lot of money for a meeting that they were supposed to prepare before, I told Karsten that I personally don’t trust them. In the following days he told me about more situations in which the lawyer from this firm was behaving strangely in the Bhoga case, showing a pessimistic attitude regarding the case. In front of the whole board of NATHA in the administrative meetings, Karsten repeatedly explained how bad these lawyers are and that we have to find a solution with this situation. Then we received an exaggeratedly large bill for a meeting where they again came unprepared. Karsten called the law firm and on the phone they agreed to cut the bill in half! What an amazing proof of unprofessionalism. This was another sign that the law firm was treating us superficially and they were not interested in anything other than money. Karsten was the one in contact with them and therefore we were just listening to his considerations. We were thinking that after the first step in the Bhoga case we will have to end this cooperation with this firm for the Bhoga case and to only continue with them for the construction of the foundation, but to our big surprise, three days before the court meeting the law firm announced us that they are terminating all cooperation with NATHA. After a while they started to send bills for the work they pretended to do for NATHA and for a while we paid, out of a kind of inertia. When we talked about this subject in the administrative meeting, Karsten presented the situation and again spoke very badly about the law firm in front of us all. He personally told me how indignant he was about this kind of behavior – cheating a non-profit organization by overcharging them. We (the group included Karsten who had the initiative himself) all decided to stop paying the bills until the situation would be clarified. Then Karsten started his “trip” out of the school (which you can see in the “WHO IS JESPER?” Lecture) and shortly afterwards he moved out of the ashram to “take care of his coming baby”. In a short time, his desire for revenge, some personal issues, and cowardice made him start to spread lies amongst his friends when giving reasons why he left the school.  Meanwhile, the law firm was threatening NATHA with a trial if we didn’t pay the remaining money from the bills.  NATHA was toeing the line by demanding explanations and documentations for the work claimed to be done by the lawyers, but never received anything except court threats. Several lawyer friends advised us that the bills were insanely big for the services provided by the law firm.

The next step was that the law firm called Karsten Fischer into court since he was the one mainly dealing with them. By this trick they tried to scare him…and it worked. Later they called NATHA into court for not paying the rest of the bills. Karsten contacted Sahaj (the one taking care of NATHA’s administration) and asked for a paper from NATHA stating that Karsten had nothing to do with this case. He made this request to his friend in front of whom he had said how badly these lawyers were doing their job! After speaking with some advisers we came to the conclusion that the only honest way would be that Karsten will go to court and say what he knows about the case. In this way, together with NATHA, he will for sure win the case. From here the story starts to show its “sleep of the reason” side.

Together with Sahaj, Karsten worked for hours writing his statement that would be sent to the court. The deal was that we would send his statement as soon as our lawyer friends approved that all is in order with the papers. The whole statement was made by Karsten on his initiative!!! He knew the situation very well. While awaiting the results of the research with our advisers, Karsten tried to call Sahaj a few times, but Sahaj was teaching and his phone was turned off. When Sahaj called back Karsten said “I am sorry, I found another solution!!!”. At the same call he started talking badly about the school, saying that he is very disappointed by the attitude of his former friends (without any connection with the case!). One week later Karsten sent a letter to Sahaj claiming that all he wrote in his statement was no longer valid. The strange thing is that even under pressure he could have called the court and asked for a delay of his statement, but instead he used this excuse to make a deal with the law firm. At the same time we heard from the court that the law firm had withdrawn the case against Karsten and they now have him as a witness against NATHA!!! IS THAT A COINCIDENCE OR IS IT THE MONSTER CREATED BY THE SLEEP OF REASON? I don’t believe in coincidences, do you?

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“GOYA’S painting ‘THE SLEEP OF REASON CREATES MONSTERS’

fits very well with Karsten’s attempt to lie in court

and create a strange victimization image of himself, hurting the people around him.”

Just to top this up with more juice, at the time when Karsten was changing his statement he’d written by his own will, he and Celia decided to accept the proposal to appear in the media as a witness (the Jesper character) and later the media scandal started! (The evidence about his cooperation with the journalist was presented live to all the participants at the “WHO IS JESPER?” lecture).

To summarize until here, since there are so many details: when in NATHA, Karsten worked with a law firm for NATHA in two cases: the BHOGA case, and building a legal structure. He is the one who was not happy with the work of the lawyer in the BHOGA case and spoke against the law firm. They overcharged us and even admitted it on the phone, reducing one of the bills to half. The law firm decided to stop all cooperation three days before the trial with the BHOGA case. We decided to stop paying the remaining sum of money after receiving a lot of feedback from lawyers who considered that the bills were too big. Karsten was part of the decisional team (there are several witness). After this he left the school and started a personal vendetta against it. The law firm started a court case against NATHA and a separate one against Karsten. Karsten asked for help from NATHA and he agreed to go to court to say what he had said to NATHA’s board earlier. He made his written statement to be sent to the court. Two days later, claiming that he couldn’t find Sahaj on the phone, he made a deal with the law firm to go to court for them if they stop the case against him.  At almost the same time, he started to cooperate with journalist Orla Borg, resulting in a slander campaign in the newspapers against NATHA and me. Fascinating series of “coincidences”.

Last week the court meeting took place. Karsten came as a witness for the law firm!!! Under oath he admitted that he was not happy with the lawyer in the BHOGA case. But then he stated clearly that he believed that the law firm was doing a good job and all the money they claimed were correct!!! When asked by the judge and by Sahaj (we defended ourselves because a lawyer would have been expensive) why he changed his statement, Karsten claimed: “I was influenced by the pressure the community put upon me and therefore the statement was not representing my own opinion”!!! But his written statement was given ALMOST ONE YEAR AFTER HE LEFT THE SCHOOL AND HE WAS THE ONE COMING TO US FOR THIS. He tried to appear in the court as a “victim” of the group of people around him; that he couldn’t stand for his own opinion because of them. What he avoided to present to the court was the fact that by the time he wrote the statement he had not been in the school for a while and, furthermore, when he was in the school he was the one who had had the most radical and independent opinion.

From the sequence of events, it is clear that Karsten was lying again, this time in front of the court and under oath, just to save his situation and to hurt the ones whose only guilt was to trust him in the past!!! Indeed, in his case “the sleep of reason creates monsters” painting fits very well. He has become a person who has sold his honesty for his own career and security. What a sad sight to see him in this situation and to hear his lies that he dares to utter in front of the people who already know the truth.

For me and the others who were present in the court it was a good spiritual lesson about the decadence of the human soul in absence of some spiritual guidelines. This is also the reason I choose to write this experience here, as a reminder about the importance of keeping your own principles in life, no matter what the temptations are along the way.

P.S. GREAT TIMING!!! while writing this post, Karsten just wrote a message on the blog. I will only partially publish it due to the fact that in his desperation to keep his image clean, he tries to involve people whom he previously hurt. As you can see from his post, he is trying to save his image while attacking those people he was hurting until now for the reason that they disagreed with some of his decisions and actions in life!!! It seems in Karsten’s case the sleep of reason is indeed deeper than I’d thought and the monsters are in fact bigger. Goya’s painting fits very well within this frame. I will comment on his post soon as I’m now very busy.



The Video Story of The Bhoga Case


As I promised in the “WHO IS JESPER LECTURE?” – here is the video clip which briefly presents the strange situations that have appeared in the Bhoga case.  Anyone can see the escalating violence that Kim Schmock is pushing against NATHA through the Bhoga case.

Recently I was also informed that Karsten Fischer alias ‘Jesper’ is already actively helping Kim Schmock in his insane campaign against his old friends.

I decided to post this video here for everyone to see the pressure these vengeful guys are making against the Bhoga community and Natha School by using extreme violence, thievery and lying in the court.

I announce here for the first time that they are trying to use some tricks in order to evacuate Bhoga inhabitants against the courts decision, by creating a smoke screen. I hope that announcing this beforehand their plans will be foiled. You can find the Danish version of this video clip here .

I hope that all the people who care for principles in life will take a stand to prevent further violence and to prevent this outrageous act of thievery carefully planned by this people who lost their temper for the possibility to gain some money.

The images speak for themselves and I invite you to comment here and even to suggest different solutions to this case.

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Kim Schmock has shown us the true dimension of his mental problems: the case becomes dangerous!!!


“Schmollum” brought in the “orcs” and the involvement of the “all seeing eye” starts to appear clearer.

YOU CAN FIND MORE INFORMATION REGARDING THE BHOGA CASE ON BHOGA PAGE HERE

After we made the invitation for Kim to live in one of NATHA’s ashrams, after I wrote to Kim, Celia and Karsten (K&C&K) on this blog in the hope they are still realizing the need for an open dialogue, after I made the announcement that I will keep a lecture in NATHA about the whole situation created by the ‘micro’ group of ridiculous “enemies” of NATHA, the incredible happened – on 4th of July: extreme violence broke out in Bhoga and some of our friends were beaten until they needed serious medical attention! Some confused “orcs” lead by the even more confused Kim Schmock attacked them. You can read the below article from NATHA.DK to get the whole story from the eye witnesses of the event, here I will only underline some of the most striking elements:

That K&C&K began this campaign is clear (at least at the surface) for everyone (there are some underground elements that will be shown later). But what we can see and we have to give a firm WARNING about now is the fact that the things are going too far and they are SELF – SUPPORTED!!!

These people (K&C&K) were not in conflict with the school in any way and never in conflict with their friends around. The only disagreement was between Kim and NATHA regarding the ownership of BHOGA but that is a subject of a court-file. Until the court-file will finish everyone is waiting. No one ever attacked K&C&K in any way and the recent media attacks from their side were only their initiative. In other words “they are taking speed by themselves”, without anyone from NATHA pushing them in anyway. The things do not stop there; Celia and Karsten are actively contacting people and spreading gossip and all kinds of strange rumors about the school in a strange effort to convince some people how bad we are etc… In the same line, Kim attacks the Bhoga community for THE SECOND TIME in the last few months. The last time was a warming up for what was now a full scale violent raid (like in movies.) All together these elements illustrate that K&C&K are themselves following a strange pattern of rising the level of their violence (of course in their specific way).  As they are getting some support and complicity from some authorities making their actions even worse!

AS A RESULT OF THE CAMPAIGN FROM JP, THE VIOLENCE IS SPREADING AGAINST SOME TEACHERS AND STUDENTS OF NATHA! Last week one of my friends and a teacher in NATHA was subjected to aggression in her own home – by a person that came from the street after reading the articles in JP!!

Kim and his “orcs” were supported and even protected this weekend by some local police with preconceived ideas that were created by the articles in JP. They were under the strange command of an invisible officer and they practically aggressed  the victims!!! Saying that someone in all this is connected with the “all seeing eye” is not only an analogy with the famous book of Tolkien for the one who is an initiate.

The questions that I want to put openly are: WHAT IS NEXT??? Is it not clear that this is already a “death race”? How long until the responsible authorities will take some measures to stop these people before they create even more damage?

Here are the recent events and I look forward this time for your opinions and suggestions:

(THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE IS TAKEN FROM NATHA.NET)

Kim Schmock goes over the edge – and the police still do nothing

 

Saturday the 4th of July started out as a lovely sunny day, but it turned out to be a day unleashing violence and law-breaking against the peaceful residents of Bhoga.

On that day, Hans and Mariah (two of the residents of Bhoga – a farm house in Vejby) were enjoying the warm weather in the farm, together with one of their friends, Martin, who had come to visit. All three are yoga teachers from Natha Yogacenter. A few other friends who had stopped by for lunch were at the beach a few miles away. In that peaceful atmosphere, the worries of the constant harassment by Kim Schmock seemed far away.

It has been difficult times for the residents of Bhoga. On the 10th of March this year, Kim Schmock broke into the house with two other men, took all of the residents things out of the house and changed the locks, locking the legal tenants out. Much of the private belongings were damaged, doors were broken, and several objects were missing, including thousands of Danish crowns, legal documents and private bank papers. When the occupants tried to move back in, Kim tried to stop them with force. Eventually, the police arrived and after reading the court’s decision on the case of the residents of Bhoga, they installed the tenants back in and forced Kim to leave. Since then, Kim has been coming often to Bhoga, lurking around the house, watching through the windows and harassing the inhabitants who became increasingly scared of violence from him. The police has not done much, saying that they will speak with him, and that if he comes back again they will take action, but those proved to be empty promises and in the end lies.

Back to that Saturday – it seemed like the perfect summer day of relaxation for the residents of Bhoga, but the quiet was all too short-lived. At around 17:30, a gang of 7 drunk, tattoo covered men carrying iron bars and lead by Kim Schmock arrived at the house. The gang began breaking through one of the windows with a crow-bar. Hans and Martin came outside to speak with Kim but were violently beaten by the hooligans who were being instigated by Kim. Martin tried to film the attackers, but then he was attacked again by the men, under Kim’s orders, being strangled, dragged on the floor, beaten in the head, almost breaking his right arm and leg. The camera was pried from his hands by the assailants, damaged and the tape was destroyed. One of the men chased Martin with an iron bar threatening to kill him.

The gang broke in through the window and invaded the house, where Mariah was left alone and unprotected in front of the aggression of Kim and his bullies. Kim ordered his crew to break all the locks from the doors, and when Hans and Martin try to prevent that, they were attacked again.

Just as Martin and Hans were beaten by the hooligans, supervised by Kim, the police arrived at the scene and the violence stopped. To the residents’ shock and surprise, the police are not willing to do anything to punish the attackers or to protect the inhabitants from further aggression. No complaints are filed, Kim and his gang are allowed to stay, and the police find it sufficient to ask them to behave. The residents ask the police to at least stay and ensure that the violence doesn’t continue, but the police reply that they have to leave because ”they have more important things to do”. Thus the police leave the scene of the crime without doing anything, leaving behind a mob of 7 drunk and violent men, alone with their victims – 2 men in need of medical treatment and a woman in shock.

This decision of the police is particularly alarming on the background that for several months the inhabitants of Bhoga have been complaining about Kim’s repeated aggression and have been warning the police against him and asking for their protection, yet the police have been only stalling any action. The residents have even warned then about exactly the kind of event that happened on the July 4th , knowing Kim’s methods, and still the police have done nothing. As we can seen, the results of the passivity of the police were not late to follow. Indeed, the warnings of the residents were well-grounded. Still, even after Kim broke-in to the house along with 6 drunk men armed with iron bars, had severely beaten inhabitants and guests in the house (yoga teachers from Natha), had destroyed private property and threatened the people with death – the police did nothing to protect the life and property of the legal tenants. It is alarming to note that the level of Kim’s aggression is continuously escalating – from harassing to breaking in, to severely beating and who knows what he would have done if the police had arrived later then they did. Due to the frightful escalation of the violence of Kim, we must pertinently inquire: what are the police waiting for? What would be needed to wake them into action to fulfill their duty of protecting the people of Bhoga? Do they have to wait until there is no one left to protect? If such a terrible event comes true, the police would not be able to say that they were not warned and implored to help!

The events continue to unfold under the irresponsible decisions of some local policemen:

Luckily for the unprotected occupants of Bhoga, shortly after the police left, there arrived at the farm the friends who were at the beach – and were unaware of the situation because they had no telephone signal – as well as some friends who came urgently from Copenhagen after hearing about the events. Kim’s gang of troublemakers began to leave the premises, leaving behind them a large pile of empty cider-cans and a vandalized house with no locks and several broken doors. Now Hans and Martin could finally be rushed to the hospital by one of the visitors, and the rest of the guests were comforting Mariah and fixing the doors and locks, shutting the entrances to the house to prevent the danger of the attackers returning. As it turned out, Kim Schmock was still around the house and tried to force his way back in, at some point even attacking one of the guests with a screw-driver and hurting his thigh. Yet the people at the farm, who were now Mariah’s only defense against this psychopath, acted without any violence, not raising a hand in attack even when they were attacked.

In a typical display of psychopathic behavior, Kim calls the police and complains that he is being attacked. The friends of the residents are left with their jaws dropped at this display of treachery, yet they had the faith that the police will easily discern the reality. No one expected what was to follow.

The police arrive promptly at the house and their leader did not seem interested at all to talk with the residents, speaking only with Kim. On the other hand they are aggressive to the friends of the residents, shouting at them. One policeman, when observing that he is being filmed by one of the guests accompanying Mariah, a Jewish tourist from Israel, shouts at him aggressively, even though the tourist explained that he doesn’t understand Danish. The policeman tried to snatch the camera away from him by force, and then grabbed him violently by the neck and hand and pushed him out of the premises, even though the tourist did not resist. All this was done without offering any explanation.

When the police entered the house they shouted and cursed at the guests inside – several times calling them ‘idiots’ and ‘stupid’. They sprayed two of them in the eyes with pepper-spray and threw all the guests out of the house, even though they did not show any violence or commit any offense.

The hopes of the shocked residents of Bhoga that the police would protect them against the aggression of Kim were finally shattered when the police announced their decision: Kim may stay in the house, while all the guests must leave under threat of imprisonment. This decision contradicted the court ruling that only the residents are allowed to live in the house while Kim has no right to stay. It was also in contradiction to the police decision from the 11th of March to send Kim away. It was in violation of the police promises to act against Kim if he disturbs the residents again. This decision was also not consistent with the attitude of the police earlier that day, when they refused to send Kim’s crew of hooligans away after they had broken into the house and had beaten the people inside. The decision of the police was even more outrageous, considering the fact it meant that they were leaving an unprotected woman alone in the house with a psychopathic man who has spent the last months harassing her and who has just put her boyfriend in the hospital. The police were sending away the only people who could protect the frightened woman, leaving her to be alone with her attacker during the night, hundreds of meters away from the next house. We must ask – is this the way the police is protecting civilians from violence? If any harm came to Mariah, or any other inhabitant of Bhoga, wouldn’t the police be held responsible?

Something must be done. We appeal to the police not to abandon the legal residents of Bhoga and to take action to protect them from the escalating violence of Kim. How far will he be allowed to go with his attacks? The writing is on the wall!

At the same time, one cannot ignore the responsibility of the news-paper Jyllands Posten for creating the conditions for this outburst of violence. The paper’s ruthless and organized campaign against Natha Yoga center, it’s deliberate attempt to create a hostile public opinion against members of the school – these were elements which encouraged Kim to lead this flagrant attack, believing that now the rights and lives of Natha’s yogis are forfeit. It is clear that this brutality is a result of the planned campaign carried out by JP and under the instructions of certain elements that will soon be revealed.

It is interesting to point out that JP quoted Kim in their articles (as being one of the so-called ”ex-members of the school”) without mentioning at all his violent history and his personal interest concerning Bhoga. In doing so, JP showed similarities with the police who were also so ready to support Kim’s claims which were not supported by any proof, while totally ignoring his obvious psychopathic pattern and violent actions and refusing to listen to the other side. One may ask, why is it that in their desperate campaign to manipulate anything they can to defame Natha, JP did not also raise the subject of Bhoga (who’s ownership is currently the subject of a trial between Natha Yoga center and Kim Schmock)? Perhaps they left this issue out of the campaign so far because they knew that there were other plans being prepared for Bhoga.

It is also significant that the rampage of the 4th of July took place only 5 days after Natha  announced on it’s official site www.natha.dk that Mihai Stoian, the school’s coordinating teacher, will keep a special lecture on the 16th of August, in which he will disclose some mechanisms of this media campaign and certain elements about the ones behind it. Obviously, someone does not want this information to reach the public!

The events which are unfolding testify that those who are running the campaign against Natha from the shadows wish to keep the lowest profile possible while in the same time perpetrating as many offenses as possible against the school. To their demise, their actions expose them to the light.

Nota Bene: We have received information that Kim is planning to make a false complaint to the police that the residents of Bhoga or their friends have supposedly beaten him, and to support this lie he is willing to stage his own injuries. From such a psychopath, behavior like this doesn’t surprise us.



Revealing interview with Maria Porsfelt


After three weeks of libelous behaviour, lying and truth-twisting about NATHA and its activities, nothing from our side has been published in the media! We have received a formal letter from JP’s editor in chief in which he hides behind the formalities required to make a request for reply. This is another strategy to delay publishing our response while they continue to publish the same lies again and again, and this time the lies are not even presented as hypotheses, but as facts! This is a technique of manipulation “from the book”, which can even be found in one of the first chapters.

Since the media states that the company, Sublime Erotica is financially linked to NATHA, I recommend reading a very good  interview with the producer of this company on www.natha.net. Also, I find this interview with Maria Porsfelt, NATHA teacher and chair of the board of its association, in which she reveals the truth about the allegations JP made about her, worth reading. Once again the journalist has shown he either lacks professionalism or has a hidden agenda. Later on I will “connect the dots” in order to show some blatant facts which prove the latter. How many times does he have to prove the existence of this hidden agenda through his actions until he and the people behind him realize the readers are not stupid and the intention behind this campaign has become clear?

Here is the interview taken from www.natha.dk

The sensational interview with Maria Porsfelt

Article – Press Campaign

Friday, 05 Juni 2009 17:05

Until recently, Maria Porsfelt was known mostly as an inspiring teacher of Yoga, Tantra and meditation in Natha Yogacenter. However, in its Sunday issue on 31st May, Jyllands Posten newspaper tried to connect her name with a new scandal (they are trying to create) with the purpose of again attacking the Yoga school. To clarify this matter I contacted Maria and asked her some questions. She was kind, and over a telephone interview she openly and honestly shared her thoughts and feelings on the matter. Here is the interview.

R: For those who don’t know you, can you please tell us something about yourself and your connection with Natha Yogacenter?

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Maria: I started attending Yoga courses in Natha Yogacenter in 2001. I was a university student and I fell in love with a guy who was practicing Yoga in India. He told me about it with a lot of enthusiasm, and, as I had always wanted to practice Yoga and was very interested in it, I decided that this was the time to find out more about it, and we both decided to follow the Yoga courses offered by Natha Yogacenter. There I found out that their approach to Yoga was genuine and it was everything that I had dreamt of and more. In this way, Yoga became a very important part of my life. I temporarily interrupted my university studies and spent some years traveling through Asia, studying Yoga and traveling around Thailand and India, and it was a wonderful period of my life. It was during these travels that I met Jean Baptiste Miro. Upon my return from traveling, I resumed my studies at the university, where I am now doing my masters in philosophy, and I also returned to the study and practice of Yoga and Tantra with Natha Yogacenter. In general, I find the integration of my university studies and my activity in Natha very harmonious. I have always thought it is important to finish my studies.

R: What is your role in Natha Yogacenter?

Maria: I am the Chairman of Natha Yogacenter. I was elected by the board on the 16th of March 2008. The trust they placed in me was a big surprise, but probably my activity within the school was recommending me. However, my main activity there is to teach Yoga, Tantra and meditation.

R: On Sunday 31st May, JP newspaper published an article in which you are accused of participating in a sex movie. What is your reply to this accusation?

Maria: I am fully standing for all of my activities. It is a bit painful to see how my actions are presented in this twisted way by the newspaper. I was informed by my family and friends about what is going on, as I am not in Denmark in this present moment. When I read the on-line article in JP, I was amazed. From their description, I could hardly recognize the movie they wrote about in the way I knew it – they were presenting it as a ”pornographic movie”, something sleazy and perverse. In reality “Eve’s Awakening” was made from a completely different perspective – a perspective of sublime and spiritual eroticism.

As I said, I have known Jean Baptiste for quite some years now – we first met in Thailand. Back then, he was making a documentary about eastern spirituality, and it was very inspiring. He is very talented and that project was both daring and inspiring. The same is with this new project of creating a transfigurative and spiritualized alternative form of eroticism, using artistic tools. When I heard about it, it seemed to be a good opportunity to help him give an artistic expression to the ideals and beliefs we both share regarding sacred love and love-making. We meant this project to be a ray of light in the darkness that dominates the adult film industry. The movie is meant to give an alternative to people, to the way they live their intimate lives, to give a more elevated and spiritual perspective upon sexuality and to give another perspective for living life in a way that is completely fulfilling and that would make them happy.

The idea was to gather some people who have experience in applying the tantric teachings in their life, then to find the artistic means to create the transmission of the spiritual message. It was a wonderful experience for me to participate in this project. We were talking a lot about finding the best way to illustrate the elements of human eroticism in terms of spirituality and Jean Baptiste was constantly pushing the team towards the most spiritual approach in order to fulfill the highest standards.

So, it was not at all a sex-movie, as JP presented it. It was about showing how intimacy can be approached differently and how it can become a beautiful act of love-making, with transfiguration, love and intimacy. It was only from this perspective that I decided to join this project, together with Miro. I trust him very much, I saw the other movies he made on various other subjects and I like very much what he does.

R: Do you feel the movie was loyal to this perspective?

Maria: Yes. When I watch this movie, I find it very beautiful and inspiring and it is something that I am happy to have participated in. I know that spiritualizing the erotic experience, that involves perfect control over the sexual impulse, is a daring action since the sexual energy is very powerful and many people allow themselves to be dominated by it. Yet we are not starting from scratch, our parents were the generation that started the sexual revolution so I don’t see why we should now be less open…

R: But in their article, JP insinuates that there is a connection between Sublime Erotica and Natha. Can you make it clear – is there any connection between Natha and the production of the movie, from the financial or administrative perspectives?

Maria: No, there is no connection between Natha and Sublime Erotica from any financial or administrative perspectives. Furthermore,the insinuations they made about the finances of the movie are off the scale. Miro put all his finances into this project and the whole team participated without any financial gain so that we can make this work. You know how hard it is to start a new project, especially when it is not known by many. And this is another thing that makes me so upset about this article. Besides the fact that the newspaper presents a very beautiful movie as something vulgar – it also insinuates that it has something to do with my everyday job as a teacher and as Natha’s Chairman. If I had had another job (like working in a bank) – for sure the journalist would not connect things in this way, but since JP has a clear goal of discrediting Natha Yogacenter (which is obvious to any person with common sense that reads their articles, considering they continuously refuse to publish our replies), they invent things and they twist the facts. From my perspective, it is ridiculous to make this connection and I take it as an offense. If the journalist had tried to call me I would have clarified this for him… but that would probably have ruined his point, and anyway he was running out of points in his hidden agenda.

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In conclusion, I state clearly that there is no financial connection whatsoever, and no administrative connection between Natha and Sublime Erotica.

Natha and Sublime erotica are two different activities in my life. My involvement with Sublime Erotica is that of a private person, doing something which I believed and still believe is right. I know Jean Baptiste is an excellent director, and by participating in his movies I was involved in an interesting project, which I consider as being of great help for those with an open mind and with less inhibitions regarding sexuality, and who are looking for an alternative that makes them happy and free. This activity is not opposing in any way the things that I teach in Natha, because in fact this movie is built on some of the Tantric principles that I teach. Anyone seeing this movie will see at least that it was not meant to be pornographic.

Making this connection between me and a pornographic movie is meant to discredit me and the school and since they didn’t make any pornographic movies they are making this one appear as such. From there, with a series of insinuations the connection is made in a forceful way in order to obtain the scandalous effect.

R: This is not the only article. There is a series of articles against Natha Yogacenter, accusing it of being a sex sect. What is your reply to this series of articles?

Maria: I am still amazed. I would never have imagined seeing such strange journalism in Denmark - particularly in its obsession with the sexual aspect, making a big scandal out of it based on lies and by twisting the truth. There is so much emphasis on this, instead of mentioning all the wonderful courses and workshops on other subjects that we have in Natha. I am surprised that JP only focuses on some sexual stories and is trying to turn it into a scandal. Especially in my country I would have never expected these things to happen because we are supposed to be quite free and more relaxed when it comes to sexuality. As I mentioned we had a sexual revolution – Denmark is one of the places where this sexual revolution was initiated! And this was even in my parents’ generation! I am very surprised to see that my own generation is less open. Now I can see that some journalist is trying to create hysteria in the media – over a few movies with an erotic subject – which is completely far out. In these movies the eroticism is presented in a very beautiful and harmonious way and if those who criticize these movies would bother to watch them, they would change their opinion; they would see that it is something very different than the way that they present it, but it is clear that they only want scandal. They are not interested in finding out the truth as nobody made any effort to contact Natha or Sublime Erotica. This shows that they just want to find any excuse to attack and hurt Natha.

As for the sect accusation, I think that my life as it is would not be possible in a sect. They have insinuated that the students in Natha are isolating themselves from society, family and friends. Since I am in university and I’m also in good contact with my family, how can I fit into such a sect? It’s easy to label an organization that cannot defend itself because you don’t publish any reply from it as a sect. Anyhow, if Natha was a sect, be sure that I would not be there in the first place and also this interview would not take place.

I hope the authorities will have the discernment to see the true face of Natha Yogacenter through this smoke screen that JP is trying to create. I assure you that I wouldn’t have dedicated a big part of my time to Natha if that school would have mistaken spirituality with pornography. On the contrary, the teachings offered by Natha Yogacenter on the subjects of Yoga and Tantra make a very clear distinction between spirituality and sacred eroticism on the one hand and sexual perversions and uncontrolled sexual desires on the other. The spiritual methods that are offered can allow anyone to control and even transcend the inferior impulses. Since the journalist describes the movie ”Eve’s Awakening” as pornography, and also insinuates that Natha is teaching such things or is gaining a financial advantage from this, I must say that I am in doubt of his good intentions and his honesty.

I invite anyone who wants to discover what NATHA is to visit the school and to have a direct experience. There is nothing that can replace this knowledge.

R: Thank you for your time and for these clarifications. We would like to ask you some more questions but you mentioned in the beginning that we have limited time now. We will come back to you later, maybe after seeing if JP publishes NATHA’s reply, now that NATHA is making an official legal request for the newspapers to publish it.

Maria: Yes, you are very welcome. I’m also looking forward to the newspaper’s public clarification following this series of mistakes. Goodbye.

Interview taken by Arthur Lederer,

Natha.net, 5.06.2009



THE SERIES OF SLANDEROUS ALLEGATIONS CONTINUES IN THE MEDIA


THE MODERN FORM OF INQUISITION

ONE WEEK AFTER THE SLANDEROUS ATTACKS ON NATHA YOGA CENTER NOTHING WAS PUBLISHED FROM NATHA’S SIDE OF THE STORY!!! INSTEAD THEY HAVE NOW COME OUT WITH A NEW WAVE OF STORIES AND ACCUSATIONS, BUT THIS TIME BETTER WRITTEN, AND ONLY INCLUDING A FEW LINES FROM NATHA’S REPLY. THIS IS A FORM OF MODERN INQUISITION. In the following posts i will explain gradually this last STATEMENT.

Though the attacks on me personally do not disturb me, i am very surprised about the strange angle JP newspaper has put in their story about Sublime Erotica. Having a student in the Tantra class who is a director of art movies, and participating to a project that is trying to promote a new and generous idea (TRANSFIGURATED AND SPIRITUAL EROTICISM IN ONE OF THE LEADING COUNTRIES OF THE SEXUAL REVOLUTION) is presented as public crime! The more this campaign against NATHA unfolds, the more it looks like a “witch hunt”. First they say that NATHA is a sect (meaning it is in control of the life of all its members!) and then they attack the personal life of some persons within the organization as if it is identified with the whole school. This is a contradiction in itself! In reality the personal life of the students and teachers is their own responsibility and it is not related to the school.

The newspaper becomes in this way the tribune of A MODERN INQUISITION!

For those who are open minded I propose a simple experience: read the article in JP and then read the real project description about Sublime Erotica and you will see the difference for yourself.

The fact that a producer is learning about the tantric teachings in NATHA and engages in finding an artistic expression of some of its principles – the ones regarding the spiritualized eroticism – it is his private business and any financial connection with the yoga school is the pure fantasy of the journalist. How many times we have to explain this for the journalist to understand it and to make serious investigations before any statements?! The only reason for this behavior is a clear goal he follows: to hurt as much as possible!

The journalist is in fact trying to exploit the public sensitivity towards sex stories and to associate some emotions with the money story they desperately try to put forth. The attempt to associate the public money with the alleged sexual services is scandalous and reveals their real intentions: to harm as much as possible.

Yet i trust the discernment of the ‘kommune’ in this matter will enable them to see through the smoke screen JP is trying to create. The yoga school NATHA will not allow such allegations to go unnoticed and will help the truth to come out.

The article is again full of manipulative techniques that i will start to analyze step by step in order to reveal the real nature of all these articles.

It becomes more obvious now that the intention of the newspaper is just to discredit me and the yoga school as much as they can, however, they don’t have many reasons and therefore they force in such twisted stories.

THE STORY OF AN SMS AND HOW MUCH YOU CAN SPECULATE IT

31st OF MAY 2009 the JP published new accusations against me. Here is my first reply to the strange twisting of the truth Celia Clausen was delivering to them.

First observation is that they give her almost three pages (!!) and gave me a small box. Here is what i have said there, exactly as the newspaper received it. If necessary i will come later with a larger answer. The whole story that was presented in JP is a twisted truth adorned with lies to make it more dramatic. Therefore i am still thinking if it is necessary for me to waste more time on such personal attacks. I know what i have said and she also knows it very well. If she choose to twist it and thus serve some hidden agendas just to make herself feel good because she is not anymore a student in the school, it is her choice. She is attacking me and not the school and it is just a personal revenge.

Here are my first considerations regarding the statements made by Celia Claussen:


All the allegations are clearly defamatory and are mixed with lies about the discussions and advice I gave to Celia and “Jesper” over time. I want to mention that all that we spoke about was as friends and I was speaking only in the name of our friendship. Nobody forced Celia in any way to do anything. On the other hand, I understand friendship from the principle: “a real friend is not the one who tells you what you want to hear, but the one who tells you what you need to hear, and he/she (the friend) stands for this”.


As there is a lot of information about this issue and Mr. Borg stated he wants only a short answer – that cannot be satisfactory for this delicate matter – I will publish if necessary (and as soon as I have more time) all the details about this situation for anyone who is interested to know about it, on my blog.


A simple review of NATHA’s courses will reveal that we offer three different courses involving children: Prenatal Yoga, Yoga for mother and child, and Yoga for children. I personally supervised the formation of the curriculum of all these courses, which, for those with common sense, is an indication of my attitude towards this issue. Celia forgot to reveal that I personally invited her to meet me with one of the teachers of these courses to practice exercises for pregnant women that help for an easy pregnancy and painless birth. About this, I was advising from the perspective of the science of Tantra.

Wishing all of you LOVE and Peace

Mihai Stoian



The MISA case from the European perspective (subtitluri in romaneste)


Since the connection between NATHA yoga center and MISA was considered by the lousy journalists as a stain on NATHA’s reputation, here is how the MISA case was perceived at European level. I have to mention that none of these video clips were presented in Romania. They were filmed by an independent film producer who at that time was making an investigation regarding the MISA case. You can see for yourself the difference between the perception of some serious people who form their opinion after investigating and the slanderous proffered by the media.
Sooner or later the TRUTH will prevail…



Shocking aspects related to the so-called experts: Dialogue Center


One of our colleagues in NATHA made a very good research on one of the so-called experts used by Jyllands Posten in their campaign. The results are astonishing and show how keen the journalist was to prove his point, even using such biased sources. In the same time the Jyllands Posten journalist completely ignores the report of real experts on NATHA and MISA. This is an unexpected material for my next study on media manipulation.

It seems that this campaign gets closer and closer to the Romanian media campaign against MISA yoga school.

Here is the research….

What is The Dialogue Center?

On 24th May 2009, Danish newspaper Jyllands Posten published an article in which some serious accusations were brought against Natha Yogacenter, including its being ‘a sect’ and ‘providing sexual services’. The source of these accusations is priest Tom Thygesen Daugaard, who is associated with (and ex-leader of) an organization called Dialogcentret (The Dialogue Centre). Since this organization is spreading lies about Natha Yogacenter, and with the help of Jyllands Posten is pretending to be an objective expert on the subject, we have decided to investigate this centre. The result was beyond our wildest dreams! Delving further into this issue we were amazed to discover many accepted authorities on the subject consider Dialogcentret to be a sect-like group, boasting radical religious views, and being by no means objective. Contrary to their objective charade, this group perceives any yoga school as standing in contradiction to the ”interest of the Danish society”.

WARNING from the main page of Dialogcentret’s website:

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“New-religiousness, sectarianism and relativism have in many forms and variations gained position and have become a strong religious factor in the Danish population and the Danish Society”

We found it interesting to discover that back in 2004 the same Tom Thygesen Daugaard, then called Frederiksen, wrote an article called “Natha – a Holy path to God or Prostitution?” for Dialogcentret. As the article resulted in a state investigation for libel, DC defended themselves by referring to their statutes in which they clearly define their a-priori, non-objective “critical relation to new religious movements” and “this being the premise of the article and the activities of DC.”[1] Note that this position is not at all declared in the article of Jyllands Posten – the same views of Dialogcentret are presented, but this time as though they are coming from an objective expert on the subject (which is far from the truth). Why was Mr. Tom Thygesen Daugaard hiding the fact that he is not an expert and just a critic aiming to make his voice heard in matters that he consider of his interest?

Furthermore, if one just reads through the papers and documents of DC and reads what the All Danish Council and leading scientific experts have to say on this subject, one will be amazed to discover who Dialogcentret really is.

The Dialogcentret (DC) is a Christian interest group fighting against the spiritual paths they consider harmful to Christian society. Their statutes define “the area of work” to be “the new religious movements and streams challenging the Church and Society.” Furthermore, this work is to be done “based on the Christian Teaching and Confession, as the biblical texts and the scriptures of the old church normatively formulates them.”[2]

For an open minded person, does this definition not sound sectarian? It becomes more clear that if DC were to apply their own principles to their own group they should dissolve themselves.

Another relevant element from their history was in 1990 when the group addresses the Danish parliament with a plea not to give state support for Yoga, as yoga is not in the interest of Danish Society! This attitude clearly shows the “openness” and “objectivity” this group has, not to mention that this attempt to attack without discernment any yoga organization is not at all in the spirit of the same Bible to which they hypocritically refer.

DC also published a booklet called Critical Information on Hatha Yoga. This booklet can be found at: http://dci.dk/index.php?view=article&catid=109&id=143&tmpl=component&print=1

Should such a group be considered expert in problems related to yoga, after openly declaring, based on religious motivation, their adversity to any form of yoga?

Following the activities of DC, professor of the science of religion at the university of Copenhagen, Mikael Rothstein, finds them “developing towards an autonomous sect within the protestant tradition. (…) many priests do not in any way wish to be identified with the group and the ambition to create their own marked profile becomes ever more evident. At the confessional level there are barely alterations, but DC seems to accentuate things more ardently, thus bringing back concepts such as “redemption”, “a lost soul” and “guilt” to the theological vocabulary. (…) at the time DC intensifies the ambition to be something unique and special, to administrate the best of opinions and to become the centre for the one new, pure revival movement.”[3] Does this sound familiar? Isn’t this the same kind of accusations DC made about Natha Yogacenter?

In response to DC’s own initiative to suggest actions to the Danish authorities, Rothstein replies: “It is a scandal. The DC is devoid of any scientific expertise and it would therefore be completely grotesque if Danish authorities listened to their opinions on others.”[4]

Peter Lodberg, president of the All Danish Church Council, does not approve of DC’s methods: “In the All Danish Church Council we have chosen the diametrically opposing method. For us, the premise is to solve controversies and difficult questions in a common dialogue.”[5]

Tim Jensen of Syddansk Universitet finds the actions of DC to be symptoms of inner and outer crisis, which is typical for authoritarian groups following the death of their charismatic leaders. After the death of the founder Johannes Aagaard the group split in two, today’s DC being the more fundamentalist of them. Jensen says: “Like for many religions, it was a problem for them to lose their charismatic leader. At the same time, the media now has more options for opinions on new religions.” He also points to their recent actions as attempts to regain a position in the media after the increased interest in Islamic groups has marginalized DC and their mission in the public view.[6]

This is also the reason why DC was so keen to participate in the slander campaign about Natha Yogacenter, this being the only way their voice has a chance to be heard. This hunt for an opportunity to gain some public attention was also evident in their previous attempts to create public opinion against Natha Yogacenter, especially since Natha has become a big center for yoga and spirituality and therefore a good opportunity.

In conclusion, we concede that using DC as an expert on Natha Yogacenter is just another malevolent action by the Jyllands Posten journalist in his writing the articles on Natha. All of this information was supposed to come to the attention of the journalist during his investigation and we cannot believe that it was by mistake that it didn’t.

We hope that through this we have made the truth about what hides behind DC’s “expert” opinions clearer.

By Sahaj Porslund



NEW: My first reply to Jyllands Posten’s allegations


Here is my reply to the articles published in Jyllands Posten on the 24th May 2009. As it already appears clearer now, the articles are just a flag bearer of a systematic media campaign against NATHA Yoga center with a clear agenda. I am already in possession of information regarding the next steps of this campaign and they confirm the “prophecy” made by NATHA’s team regarding the next step: finding some angry parents and personal stories. The predictability of this campaign is a clear sign of the hidden agenda behind it.

We also have shocking material that explains as a direct example the “anatomy of a systematic public campaign of lies”. To the extent of the time I have available I will aim to reveal this manipulation step by step whilst the campaign unfolds.

I want to thank you all for the messages of support and emails, I hope we will soon have again time to talk about spiritual subjects. For the moment your contribution is a great support for the cause of spirituality.

Stay tuned for more will follow….

I wish you love in the heart and peace in the mind.

TO JYLLANDS POSTEN

Mr Orla Borg,

On my return from traveling, last weekend I had the unpleasant surprise to read the article published by JP newspaper in your name.

Counting on your professionalism as a journalist, I send you my opinion, which you had not asked for in due time, when you wrote your articles. I send you this, asking you to publish it in its entirety. It will also be published in its entirety on my blog, in case you prove to be reserved with regard to certain parts of this letter.

From the beginning I want to underline that my role as the coordinating teacher of NATHA YOGACENTER should not be mistaken with the role of the administrative council of the school. Each one does its job and the insinuation that I decide everything in NATHA is a silly calumny, with the purpose to discredit me and the yoga school and its management team. The fact that, due to my position, I am consulted by many people about different matters does not imply that I decide everything. It is more a matter of me having something to say with respect to several aspects of the school, considering that the purpose of this school is to promote yoga and my specialty is yoga.

The activity I have within NATHA YOGA CENTER allows me to be in contact with many people who ask for my advice and who are free to decide if they want to follow this advice or not and I have NEVER had a position from which I can force anybody to do what I have indicated them to do. If I had wanted to do that which you insinuate in your articles, why wouldn’t I have ensured my position in front of the others, doing so that I can have an official power of decision within the yoga school?

The fact that I can say my opinion, even in the absence of the official position of taking decisions, is because of the experience I have regarding yoga and Tantra. I assure you that this authority cannot please everybody and the proof of this is those people who are now lying shamelessly about things they previously used to embrace willingly and without being forced by anyone.

This is why it is a mistake to ask me (on Friday evening) to give you the summary of the general meeting of the association, because I am not the one who deals with these administrative aspects. These documents were handed over to the right authorities and you could have also received them if you had asked.

Another serious mistake that I ask you to correct is your affirmation that the funds of NATHA YOGA CENTER come partially from so-called “sexual activities”. These affirmations are nothing but calumnies and I am surprised you actually publish them in a respectable newspaper. In NATHA’s financial activity there is no connection to the so- called “sexual activities”. What kind of investigation did you do considering you missed this “detail”?

To help you in your investigation, you need to know that there is no financial connection between NATHA and the Tantra temple, just as there is no connection between JP and the Tantra Temple.

Regarding the connection of total dependency that you insinuate NATHA YOGA CENTER has to MISA in Romania, I firmly state here that NATHA uses the integral yoga system put together by yoga teacher Gregorian Bivolaru, synthesizing in an exemplary way several traditional yoga systems and adapting it for the needs of the modern person. This is why, regarding the yoga and tantra courses, NATHA YOGA CENTER is in close collaboration with MISA yoga school and many of the yoga teachers in NATHA collaborate with the yoga teachers in MISA in Romania as well as from other countries, regarding the organizing of seminars, courses, summer or winter camps. There are no financial connections between the two yoga schools, as MISA offered NATHA the yoga system for free with the only condition that it is followed correctly!

As a student of Gregorian Bivolaru, I was asked by NATHA to take charge of coordinating the yoga and tantra courses as well as the work of forming new teachers. My role is to ensure that the structure and principles these courses stand for are respected within the teachings in NATHA. I have to remind you that even in the case of a so-called “franchise” of a company, there is a clear discipline of the process of copying the system from one company to the other so that the system is not corrupted by deviations from the initial purposes.

Moreover, in the case of a spiritual system with all its complexity, it is natural to have a certain clarity regarding its transmission and to have a person with experience in the system to take care of this process. Only one with a malicious mind or driven by a hidden agenda can twist this situation, presenting it as an authoritarian system that has nothing to do with spirituality.

Your request for me to personally send you NATHA’s annual budget shows another serious lack of information from your side, considering you already wrote about this yoga school, and a little research would have shown you that I am not in the position of sending you such a financial situation, for the simple reason that I do not have the position that gives me direct access to this financial situation, especially on a Friday evening! I know for a fact that NATHA’s sources of income are only the course payment and the support from Copenhagen’s Kommune. Your other statements in your articles, regarding NATHA’s financial funds coming from sexual services, is blatant slander and I ask that you take them back immediately. As a coordinating teacher in this school I participate actively to the courses and activities of the school and I have never taken part in such manifestations within the school.

In fact, the articles presented in JP contain other absurd statements that I will point out in the present reply and – when time will allow – in some further comments showing also who is behind this systematic slander campaign.

I personally know Kim Schmock as well as “Jesper” and I can say with full responsibility that all the statements they made are only lies and twisted versions of the truth, with personal revenge and material profit as their main motivation.

I am surprised that a journalist with your experience was misled, without even checking the truth of these statements. I tend to believe that you know as well as I know the importance of a word once spoken, and the difficulty of taking it back. To further help your investigations, you should know that Kim Schmock has a huge personal interest in putting down the yoga school, currently being in a court dispute with NATHA over a property from which he wants to gain 2.5 million kr, paid by the work of his former colleagues from the yoga school. We have hundreds of witnesses regarding this situation, and the property is the subject of an ongoing court case. Besides, you need to know that several times his violent actions against some students of the yoga school have required police intervention, and this can be easily verified with the police in Helsinge. All these facts disqualify him from the very beginning as an objective source in the discussion you started. His statements are only the expression of a personal interest as he made the same statements several times in front of his colleagues, when his behavior required police intervention. We can provide you with video recordings of such violent episodes from Kim Schmock’s side. I also want to underline that the personal problems he has against me make “Jesper” an equally unreliable source. For the time being, I will respect his wish to remain anonymous and will therefore not reveal his real identity.

As for bringing The Dialogue Centre into discussion, I am sure the reply the NATHA team offered you (but which you didn’t publish), could provide you with enough arguments that would show that once again you were wrong in your choice of sources. Personally, I did not have ANY direct contact with those people who claim to be experts about us and I definitely did not have the occasion to keep a Dialogue with them, dialogue that is hypocritically used in the title representing their organization.

I also want to underline here some important elements regarding the initiative my wife and I had some years ago (in 2001), to participate in a project of making a series of movies which combine erotic art with an educational purpose. Perhaps this will be the only part that you will quote from my letter, as it seems to be the only interesting subject for you.

First of all, the connection between this project and NATHA YOGA CENTER doesn’t exist since the movie “The Magic passage” was made before we came to Denmark! This project was afterwards stopped and since 2002 we didn’t involve ourselves in other productions, being focused on the activities in the school. You intentionally “forgot” to put that in your articles because it would have weakened your allegations. Bringing it up now and in connection with NATHA YOGA CENTER shows a clear intention to discredit me and to indirectly to shed a strange light on the yoga school. This is a classic method to transfer some impressions to the subject you want to depict in your own colors.

This movie was made as an artistic and educational movie where eroticism is shown in a spiritual manner, offering an alternative to the pornographic productions that invade today’s market. Any honest person who watches it without prejudice can see that.

Besides, to say that such a movie was made for material purposes is completely stupid. As it can be seen in the video clip “The Making of…”, the cast and crew that took part in making this movie was rather big, and you need to know that the movie was sold by the company producing it for only 3000 euros. This amount can be checked in the contract that the distribution company has. To make such a movie with this crew and make some profit within this sum of money would be an amazing achievement, even in times of financial crisis, but back in 2001 – 2002 this would have been impossible. Therefore to connect this project with the finances of NATHA proves bad intentions that are beyond making mistakes. In light of this, it becomes clear to anyone that you had a dirty hidden agenda when you started this so-called “investigation”.

Through this project, what we aimed for was not material profit (my wife and I did not earn any money for our participation in the project), but to trigger a new understanding of human sexuality as seen from a spiritual, superior point of view, where love and transfiguration, combined with self-control, uplift human beings. We didn’t do this by breaking the principles we teach in tantra, on the contrary, we were aiming to find an artistic expression for them. In absence of material profit, since when is it a crime to openly express love and spiritualized eroticism as a possibility of personal transformation? Positioning the images from the “The Making of …” as a crime in your article, tends to manipulate the public opinion into believing something that doesn’t exist. There are so many strange attempts to represent love and human intimacy in a deformed way and they are not the subjects of a slander campaign, some are even gaining international prizes. Why is an open and honest project, done without material gain, presented in this strange light if not for a hidden agenda?

In your articles, there are also other manipulation techniques that you use in order to induce a state of fear about NATHA, as if it is a dangerous organization. Besides the fact that this is only a cheap manipulation technique that has nothing to do with the moral and professional integrity of a journalist, it also represents a grave violation of truth. The repetitive use of certain imperative warnings, as if NATHA YOGA CENTER is a real public danger, BUT WITHOUT EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT ANY OF THESE WARNINGS, can only put you in a ridiculous light in the eyes of those who are lucid and who can easily see this perverse strategy. Nevertheless, for future reference, I ask you to refrain from such cheap strategies and to have the uprightness to say things clearly and objectively, in the name of the accuracy you owe to your readers.

In this reply you have requested from me, I also want to show you that NATHA YOGA CENTER is an organization with many spiritual projects, which you fail to mention in order to give the image of a sect that is blindly focused on some obsessive sexual subjects. How can you imagine that hundreds and hundreds of people will allow you to libelously speak of their work and their spiritual path with such cheap dirt.

If you try to draw similarities between the structure of a sect and NATHA then why don’t you notice the striking similarity between the press campaign you aim to trigger and the extremely violent press campaign against MISA in Romania. In Romania, the press campaign has reached the limits of the absurd. Did you know that in Romania more than 7000 vicious articles were written about MISA yoga school and IT WAS NOT ONCE GIVEN THE RIGHT TO REPLY!! In this context I wonder why you do not check your quoted sources before publishing the article and not afterwards. What does a journalist in a democratic country think about this? The press campaign in Romania contained proven lies as well as statements that were not proven by any journalist and by any court. How come such a situation is not seen by a journalist who is a specialist in such matters? Is it only a coincidence that these mistakes shown here in this letter are only in NATHA’s disadvantage? Statistically speaking, in the absence of a hidden agenda, “natural” mistakes belong equally to both sides, so that in the end each one has something to win and something to lose.

I wonder why JP did not raise the problem regarding the unbelievable abuse of the yoga movement, MISA in Romania, particularly after 2004. We announced the Danish press about these events, bringing about the international disapproval of Romania, however, your newspaper did not find that subject interesting. Now, all of a sudden, you find it interesting, but without making the minimum effort to update the information and to present the situation in a balanced way.

In the name of the same balance you have to know that the Swedish Supreme Court ruled that Gregorian Bivolaru cannot have a fair trial in Romania, and one of the reasons was the slanderous press campaign against him and the yoga school. This is why the fact that you present the file – which was abusively opened by the Romanian authorities against 21 yoga teachers – in the terms presented by the mass-media and not according to correct legal terms is a strange attempt to mislead (among many others in these articles!). It makes me wonder what is it that you are so keen on proving? What kind of journalism do you practice, since you can afford such an intentional error? Considering these specifications, I ask you to make the necessary corrections and to remember that I am at your disposal with the information you need so that the investigations you make can be objective.

Respectfully,

Mihai Stoian



Natha’s reply to the recent slander by the Danish media


After the attack against Natha Yoga Center by the Danish news paper Jyllands – Posten on Sunday 24th of May, the following day many Danish newspapers blindly jumped on the band wagon joining the slanderous campaign. For me, as an observer of the Romanian campaign against MISA yoga schools it is interesting as it becomes more and more obvious that the events follow the same pattern.
For now, Natha’s team have made an excellent reply to the accusations so far. The following text is the reply.
Stay tuned, as more will come ….
I wish you love and peace.

REPLY TO JYLLANDS-POSTEN

These lines constitute the reply that we offer to the campaign of untrue and slanderous remarks that the newspaper JP triggered on 23rd May, 2009.

We insist that this reply will be published in its entirety, and that our right to reply will be respected within a fair dialogue. The full version of this reply appears on www.natha.dk. We hope that JP will have the fairness to publish this reply, giving it the same attention that they have given our critics without giving us the chance to reply until now.
We wish to clarify from the beginning, that we are open to discussion spiritual matters which are more difficult to understand, but we do not consider that placing lies and slanderous remarks in a debate, as JP has done, brings any good aspect into the discussion.

Even from the title, the journalist from JP proves a sheer ignorance of some principles and launches a double mistake:
1. Using the phrase “sex-sect” in relation with the name of Natha. Natha is not a sect and this statement must be immediately corrected.
With some elementary research many relevant sources that state quite clearly what a sect is and is not could have come to the attention of the journalist. Moreover, the most ridiculous aspect is that there is a specialist report related to Natha, which refers to the same subject as researched by Karl Erick Nylund. Dr Nylund is a priest and doctor of theology and is arguably Sweden’s foremost authority on sects. Following his investigation, Dr Nylund concluded that Natha and MISA are not sects and as such they have nothing in common with the structure of a sect. Dr Nylund found ‘..in the MISA case, we can find none of the criteria defining manipulative sects…MISA is a yoga movement where the participants aim at self-perfecting and improving their state of health and harmony through a lacto-vegetarian diet and yoga techniques.’ To read the full report by Dr Nylund, please visit http://www.gregorianbivolaru.com/sweden-3-2.php. On the following link you will find the report on MISA and Natha by the Swedish sociologists from Skop Research. Their report was one of the main pieces of evidence in the extradition trial of Gregorian Bivolaru ruled by the Supreme Court of Stockholm on 11th – 12th October 2005. Some of the conclusions in their report are that MISA and Natha are not sects but organizations with an open social structure and an open ideology. “Considering the interviews we had in Denmark, we can absolutely draw the conclusion that the yoga practitioners want to be part of the society. There is no reason for them to get isolated. They even expressed their wish to include yoga as part of the public education, such as university courses – mutual wish for yoga schools or other alternative medicine organizations.” To read more about this report, visit http://www.gregorianbivolaru.com/sweden-3-3.php

How could a journalist make such serious allegations without doing the minimum research? This information is readily available on the internet. The use of the phrase “sex-sect” in connection with Natha is a grave mistake and must be immediately corrected. The status of Natha Yogacenter is a ‘People Enlightening Association’.

2. The second mistake that we ask to be immediately corrected is the placing of Natha in the category of organizations which focus on sex. Tantra is a millenary spiritual science that, among other things, offers the possibility for a human being to use, in a spiritual way, our inborn sexual potential! Natha teaches Tantra courses in which the subject of sexuality in its spiritual aspect comprises only a small part of the teaching. Therefore, to place Natha in the category of organizations which focus on sex is akin to saying that a high school is a sexual education institution just because sexual education is in the school curriculum. Through this typecasting, it is obvious that their intention is hostile. To clarify this matter, we add to the appendix, for the curious ones, a curriculum of an entire year of Natha’s course material for our Intensive Yoga course (what a serious investigative journalist should have found himself). In this way you will be able to form your own opinion about whether or not you consider if Natha deserves to be labeled as a “sex organization”. (Link in appendix 1).

Another serious mistake is that although the investigation took place over several days, the journalist didn’t find time and still hasn’t found time! to ask Natha for their side of the story. If he had have done so, he could have avoided implicating himself in the personal revenge acts of some ex-members of the association. If he had only contacted Natha as the ethical code of journalism obliges him to do, all the aforementioned mistakes could have been easily avoided. The yoga school was first contacted on Friday afternoon when the board of Natha could no longer gather to prepare a reply. Moreover, upon being contacted by Natha’s P.R. representative, the journalist declared that he wouldn’t use Natha’ s opinion in this edition anyway, and that MAYBE later, in another edition he would do this. We are very curious to see if this reply will be accepted in the spirit of correct and balanced communication.

Another serious mistake is the reference to the Dialogue Centre as experts on the subject. Simple research would have revealed that, among others, Michael Rothstein, Danish sociologist of religion, affirms that “The research of Dialogue Centre has nothing to do with science of religion… in reality Dialogue Centre was never anything more than a Christian community under strong and authoritative leadership.” Read the article in Kristelig Dagblad at: http://www.kristeligt-dagblad.dk/artikel/14029.

Through their actions this organisation have shown themselves to be more deserving of the title, Monologue Centre instead of Dialogue Centre, as they formed their statements about NATHA WITHOUT HAVING ANY CONTACT WITH NATHA AND WITH THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ACTIVITIES IN THE YOGA SCHOOL. All their statements are only manipulations of some slanderous remarks which have been gathered from the media, in particular the Romanian media, without even having the common sense to make the minimum effort to address the school that they so assiduously attacked. A simple verification of the sources, which is a fundamental part of the ethical journalistic process would have made it clear that the Dialogue Centre are champions of the slanderous monologue, and they have a particular penchant for indiscriminately attacking yoga schools. We did some research to help the JP journalist and here are some of our significant and shocking discoveries:
In 1990, before Natha Yogacenter even existed, Dialogue Centre wrote a letter to the Danish Parliament in which they spoke against any public funding of any yoga centres in Denmark. Self proclaimed crusaders, Dialogue Centre have since then been working proactively to stop public funding of any yoga school in Denmark, claiming that they are indeed not objective in their viewpoints. In 2004 Dialogue Centre published the article “Natha – a Holy path to God or Prostitution?” in which Tom Thygesen Frederiksen (the same source quoted in the current JP article). When Natha complained to the press authority, Tom Thygesen Frederiksen defended himself with the following statement: “Dialogue Centre and its paper, Den Nye Dialog, is by its own statutes, and also publicly, a forum based on an opinion that is founded on a traditional Christian standpoint and has a critical relationship to new religious movements. This is the premise for the article and the activities of Dialogue Centre”. Yet, on May 24th, JP is publishing the same views of the same person presenting it as an “expert” opinion, even though he himself openly states he is not objective. Also the newspaper, Kristeligt Dagblad, has published an extensive article about Dialogue Centre, written by journalist Leif Kiil Soerensen on 20th December, 2006, in which Dialogue Centre is criticized and given the name ‘the Monologue Centre’. Here is the link: http://www.kristeligt-dagblad.dk/artikel/14029:Kirke—tro–Dialogcentret-kritiseres-for-ensidighed.

We would like to emphasise that when NATHA requested the support of Koebenhavns Kommune, this request was made publicly and this request was also posted on our website. This fact drew the attention of those from Dialogue Centre who immediately made serious allegations about the school, allegations which tried to stop the Kommune’s support. This shows both the openness of our school that has nothing to hide – by publishing the intention just before receiving these funds on the site – and the role of redeeming, that the Dialogue Centre unjustifiably assumes. These attacks launched then by Dialogue Centre contain, strangely enough, exactly the same lies which are now circulating with the help of JP. Significantly, Dialogue Centre launched these attacks without bothering to make a single phone call to Natha, to communicate (HAVE A DIALOGUE) with someone from the management of the yoga school. We regret that this attitude has also been “contaminating” the JP journalist.

In the light of these statements made by Dialogue Centre, Koebenhavns Kommune conducted an investigation into the yoga school. Following months of investigation, they gave Natha the status of “association for enlightening people”. How is it possible that after a few years the same campaign, using the same arguments which proved to be false once, is again taken into consideration? Simple verification would have brought to light all these aspects and avoided this situation in which the work and leisure time of hundreds of people is pulverized by the slander of a “Discrimination Centre”.

A simple examination shows that all the sources quoted by Orla Borg are of questionable reliability. Another example of this is the “ex-member of Natha” Kim Schmock, who is accusing Natha of being involved in providing sex-services. Yet Mr Borg omits to mention some relevant information about this source: Kim Schmock has an ongoing legal dispute with the school, in which he is trying to steal from Natha a property valued at 4-5 million kroner, and he hopes through his unfounded accusations to gain public support for his purpose. For several years he has harassed and aggressed several of Natha’s yoga students, sometimes even to the point that the police had to intervene. It is clear that this person is biased and has much to gain financially by attacking Natha, therefore his statements cannot be trusted. However, Mr Borg does not mention these facts at all, instead he quotes Schmock as a reliable source. This information can be found on Natha’s website and could have easily been discovered by the journalist. If he had contacted Natha he would have been informed of this. We can only conclude that either the journalist did not properly investigate the story, and therefore he should not have made such accusations, or he knew of Kim Schmock’s background and chose to ignore it, still using him as a reliable source and intentionally withholding his background from the readers and in doing so, committing an act of manipulation.

Use of key words such as WARNING in the beginning of the article is part of the classical methods used to manipulate the mob. The statements which say that Natha is an organization that earns money from sexual activities are unfounded and constitute serious slander. The fact that Natha offers courses where people can learn, among many other things, also how to spiritualize the intimate life, does not mean that it offers sexual activities. Therefore, this statement must be corrected as it is not true.

We want to bring to your attention that the lies the journalist refers to in the title “Sex, Lies, and Yoga Courses” are the only the ones included by the journalist in his articles. In order to say that someone is lying, one needs to prove that the statements are not correct. Yet in the article none of Natha Yogacenter’s statements are presented, therefore, the term lies cannot be applied to the school. Instead the statements of so-called witnesses and specialists are included and in the following we will demonstrate that the presented statements are not true and therefore they are LIES.

JP tries to show their concern for the citizens by using the headline “WARNING”, yet we ask where JP’s concern really lies since they did not verify any of the statements in the article, for concern for the same citizens!

The intention to manipulate the opinions of the citizens is obvious in the use of the persona “JESPER” who desires to remain anonymous out of fear for his future and for his career. However, if this man is upright and what he says is true, what kind of career can be jeopardized by such an upright attitude which exposes the lies and manipulation (maybe except a political career and only in some cases).

The journalist tries to insinuate that the yoga school would represent an obvious danger – we emphasize that innuendo is a masked form of slander. This case is underlined by the anonymous aspect of Jesper’s character. The same innuendo appears several times during the set of articles from JP and represents a serious slender to all honest and open men, who practice yoga or who teach yoga in this school! Statements as : “WARNING” , “naive danes are in danger…”, “what is hiding behind the appearance?”, “dialogue centre warns”, “risks to become enrolled”, “I highly warn”, “everything is based on a lie”, are a clear indication of this intentional strategy

Being clearly a deliberate gesture of inducing a state of fear and obscurity upon the Natha yoga school, we ask ourselves what lies behind such a bad intention which doesn’t belong to the methods of a professional such as the journalist from JP?

In connection to this mysterious Jesper, the quotation of an anonymous source as the basis for serious allegations is unethical because it does not allow the accused to ever be able to verify the truth of the claims of the anonymous accuser. Remaining anonymous he can hide his hidden agenda. If someone accuses another he must also be available to be questioned. Since we do know who this Jesper is we can affirm that all of his remarks have no validity because of a very strong personal dependency relationship that the ‘Jesper’ has with some of the teachers in the school. We do not want to expose him and for this reason we find it irrelevant to explain the story behind this. Considering that due to his anonymity we will never be able to refute any of his claims, JP should either completely remove any reference to him or else they should reveal his true identity.

Another serious statement that we ask JP to correct immediately is that Natha Yogacenter is an organization that promotes prostitution. It is naïve for a journalist to believe that you can attribute such a statement to an anonymous character, and to believe you are absolved of all responsibility. The statement is so absurd that we don’t consider doing anything more than to ask for its immediate removal! We remind Mr Borg that the title of investigative journalist, to which he aspires, obliges him to verify the statements that he publishes, even if they come from anonymous sources, especially in the case in which the opinion of the other party is not checked at all! Since these statements are not demonstrated by any facts they should be rectified immediately.

Another serious violation of the truth is the entire series of lies regarding the financial situation of Natha Yogacenter. We understand that this financial crisis affects many, but we do not understand this as a reason for manipulation. The statement that money from the Kommune ends up in the same “box” as the money coming from the so-called sexual activities is, once again, a tendentious insinuation, which is based on a lie that was repeated several times throughout the articles. Natha had never made any income from offering of sexual services! In the yoga school sublime sexuality has always been openly discussed as a chapter in people’s spiritual life. Efficient methods through which the sexual experience can be refined and spiritualized for spiritual benefits have even been taught – however it is a big leap from here to sexual services or prostitution – and the journalist jumped to conclusions on purpose.
Moreover, the attempt to confuse the life and individual opinions of some private persons with the activity of an organization is a typical discrediting action, usually used in politics! Has Mr Borg mistaken the section of the newspaper in which he writes?

Here we do not discuss the fact that many years ago a teacher (even if he is a coordinating teacher), decided to make a movie in order to illustrate a millenary Tantric method or whether or not the fact that it was artistically successful. The movie and its making has never been a secret and therefore we cannot speak of it as being an attempt to mislead public opinion. The intention to insinuate that these private actions are a characteristic of the yoga school is scandalous. We respect the private choices that each person makes in life and we encourage each individual to live according to their principles. Such statements show a serious lack of knowledge about yoga since the science of yoga cannot be judged by what some yogis do in their personal life. This intentional confusion aims to suggest that Natha Yogacenter is promiscuous so as to argue that the granting of funds from the Kommune was a wrong gesture. How come the investigating journalist did not discover that among Natha’s students there are medical doctors, students of reputable universities, famous actors, renowned sexologists, psychologists and musicians? The method used by the journalist is one in which you find a particular aspect which could be considered to be true from a certain perspective and then generalising this aspect in an abusive way, thus applying this aspect to other aspects which the journalist wants to demonstrate – in this case presenting Natha as a firm for sexual services. If he had asked us, we would have been at his disposal to provide complete information about the school’s financial status and as a result the investigation would have been truly complete. In this case, probably the investigation would not have ended with the scandalous results that Mr Borg successfully obtained by using this simple method of manipulating public opinion.

This series of lies is completed by the following lie which completely distorts the possible outcome of the trial regarding the 21 yoga teachers in Romania. As a result of the “investigations” made by Mr Borg, he finds the 21 yoga teachers accused of “prostitution, trafficking of women and tax fraud”, when in reality the trial is about the following accusations: human trafficking and constituting such a group. The only aspect taken into account was the way ‘karma yoga’ (voluntary work done in a spiritual way) was interpreted by prosecutors within the Romanian law. The indictments don’t contain any sexual accusations or references to prostitution. The only reference to prostitution or women trafficking is to be found in the Romanian tabloids, none of these ever being proven or the subject of a trial!

Is Mr Borg incapable of differentiating between a juridical source and a source from a tabloid??

Without needing to discuss the truth of the accusations from the Romanian authorities, it is clear that the investigating journalist is distorting the facts.

Attentively following the unfoldment of the events in connection to MISA Yoga School in Romania (The abuse of MISA by the Romanian government even became a subject of discussion in the European parliament and is one of the reasons why Romania, as a new member of the European Union, received warnings from the European Forum regarding Justice) we cannot help but notice a strikingly similar procedure! Calumnies are thrown out to the press without any prior investigation, the accusations are based only on the opinions of ex-students (only 2 of them) and of groups with a clearly preferential agenda…no, we are not describing here the Natha case in the Scandinavian press, but the MISA case in the Romanian press, in order to show the striking resemblance. The only difference is that in Romania the government dared to make physical abuses against yoga practitioners. Hopefully, we will not see that in Denmark.

If we are to follow the plan that is shaping up through this campaign, the next step is to find one angry parent, who lost his or her child in the sect, even if the child is in his second youth or maybe even close to retiring! Let us see if what follows in this campaign will put us in the position of prophesizing, by making this anticipation, or it will prove us that our country is more mature and that here we truly know how to integrate all cultures and human aspirations in a superior spirit of mutual understanding.

To conclude, all these specifications give us the right to ask JP to make the necessary corrections. Their mistakes bring grave material and spiritual prejudices towards Natha Yogacenter.



Natha Presentation


I took the following article from Nathas web page because of the new presentation…

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Welcome to first time visitors and current students of our school. This new presentation movie and the following article are both a premiere.

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Who are we after all?
Since Yoga and Tantra are fundamentally about recognizing our true inner nature, from a certain perspective we can say that we are, who you will find yourself to be after years of intensive training and inner transformations. Natha Yogacenter fundamentally consists of two equally important uniquums: Its teaching system and its students. Natha Yogacenter has for the last 15 years had a privileged position in the alternative environment of yoga and meditation schools in Denmark.

First of all, we became known for being the only school for many years beside ‘Vækstcenteret’, who were teaching the ancient practice of Tantra and its exemplary induction into the mysteries of human consciousness, through a genial elaborated teaching system equilibrating the Western science of matter and the Eastern wisdom of spirit.

Who are you?
Becoming a student of Natha, you follow the spiritual journey of thousands of people who during the years have got to taste the powerful reality of beauty and serenity experienced through yoga and tantra and thus transformed inspiring teachings to fruitful self knowledge. 15 years ago Natha Yogacenter was seeding what is now aspiring to become a silent implosion of consciousness within our society.

The profound understanding of life and inner maturity which goes in lovers hand with a genuine understanding of Tantra has, through the broad variety of students from all kind of social, religious and ideological positions, created an opening in society to integrate in our everyday life, for example a more profound understanding of our sexuality (our basic life resource), our consciousness (our essential identity) and our purpose for being here and now (our destiny).

We do not expose students or former students to cheap PR. Still it is no secret that you today can hear a famous sexologist promoting the tantric ideas, or find well-known actors, dancers, musicians, screen-writers, scientists or businessmen relating to their work of life in a tantric way.

In this way our yoga school is discretely and indirectly awakening and amplifying certain positive and harmonious creative forces in our society and contribute to the higher common goal of developing the beneficial structures in our culture.

’Den Folkeoplysende Foreningen Natha Yogacenter’
We cannot be so surprised to find that Natha Yogacenter since 4 years (1st July 2005) has been acknowledged as a ‘Folkeoplysende Forening’ (a people enlightening association) by Københavns Kommune providing an environment for studying and teaching yoga, tantra and meditation.
(For those of you more curious with the formalities: For more informations click here ‘Støtteguide til Folkeoplysningsvirksomhed’ http://www.kk.dk/Borger/KulturOgFritid/FritidOgIdraet/ReglerVejledningPublikationer/~/media/5DEA72189ECB4A6ABE342464768C94D3.ashxand here ‘Retsinformation’: https://www.retsinformation.dk/Forms/R0710.aspx?id=24314 ).

As a result of several years of research and studies of the effects of our teaching system it has been recognized as being highly competent. First by the students who intensively practised the different yoga and tantra techniques, and then by the society as catalysing the development of certain admirable human qualities.

That actually means that all the courses we are teaching are acknowledged as being based on scientific methods and facts concerning the information you will receive in the written course material. Also the practice of yoga, tantra and meditation got the blue print to have incredible beneficial effect on the physical and psychic health of the human being.

It was a great step for Natha Yogacenter and also for the recognition of yoga and tantra as practices and disciplines, being a field of experience where science and spirituality meet and even merge together.

The generous support from the Kommune has given the privileged opportunity for our yoga school to employ several yoga teachers and thus secure a much higher degree of stability and progress of the activities, by helping the teachers to dedicate more time and energy to their important role as trainers for the students of the school.

Nevertheless like in any other association, one of the main pillar principle of our yoga school is that it belongs to those who involve themselves and who take initiative, and in this way gradually transforms the teachings of yoga and tantra from theory to a way of life.

Therefore the yoga school insists in its entire structure and works on the principle of voluntary work integrated in the course material as the practice of karma yoga: how to turn any exterior action into a profound inner experience of awareness.

The daily routine
The daily routine of the yoga school is structured as in any ‘folkeoplysende forening’ with an executive board elected on the yearly general assembly for all the members. The board are responsible of carrying out the administrative tasks and legal procedures of the association.

That does not mean that they are doing it all on their own. The yoga school can be compared with a living organism, where different teams are taking care of vital functions, necessary to keep the school running.

We have thus a teacher team, an office team, a communication and press team, a reception team, a restaurant team, a cleaning team, a ‘genitor’ team and presently we also have a ‘construction team’ organised by the male students of the school, who are finishing the last details on our new yoga house, Concordia.

For about 15 years – as long as the yoga school has existed – all the ‘vital organs’ have only been running on voluntary work, thus secured by dedicated students and teachers of the school spending all their spare time on maintaining important tasks.

The teacher team
If the board care takes the administrative management and decision making part of the association, the teacher team is in many ways its beating Heart, from where the teaching are supposed to radiate the legacy and both guide newcomers to discover the profound and mysterious world of meditation and give more advanced students the chance to go even deeper in their yoga practice and comprehend its results through consulting experienced yoga teachers.

The teaching system of Natha is a system developed by many years of experience and kept on the same direction by a senior teacher, having the role as coordinating yoga teacher. The role of that teacher is to coach the other teachers and to secure that the teaching is kept according to the copyright teaching system, thus making sure that any student who sign up for the courses will be taught an efficient, safe and authentic yoga, which has proved to carry beneficial fruits for thousands of people.

Presently the coordinating yoga teacher is Mihai who for the last seven years has been guiding and coaching the other teachers.

A harmonious integration in society
Being a very charismatic person with a great human understanding and spiritual clarity Mihai easily gains the sympathy and respect of the people around him. Often you will find a queue of people waiting to seek his advice in many different matters of life. Sometimes you might even find members of the board lined up in the queue, asking his advice on vital matters for the school.

Natha is thus an excellent example of how a yoga school with a traditional legacy and an authentic teaching system can be integrated harmoniously in a modern society and even in a governmental support program.

As all the members of the board are either dedicated students or yoga teachers it is their responsibility and also their challenge to translate the legacy of yoga, tantra ad meditation into a practical context, taking decisions about vital matters as economy, press and other administrative priorities.

Thus, the yoga school becomes the perfect playground for people to practice yoga and tantra and at the same time contributing in a beneficial way to build within our society some important social meeting places where people of common interest in personal and spiritual transformation can develop within everyday life.

In the general assembly, on the 16th of March 2008, the great decision of moving to Concordia on Nordre Fasanvej 230 was taken. The decision had major consequences for the yoga school in all aspects.

Even though it was a big step and some had their doubts about its impact, now, one year after the move, we have created the perfect nurturing environment for the further development of what might become a whole new way of life.

Who is Grieg?
Natha yoga center has received all of its teachings from yoga teacher Gregorian Bivolaru, or Grieg, as he is called by those who are close to him. Grieg is the founder of this remarkable and unique yoga system, which is combining the ancient Oriental spiritual teachings with modern Western science, in a perfectly coherent synthezis. To learn more about this true spiritual master and amazing and fascinating being, you may visit www.gregorianbivolaru.com.

Grieg first established the Romanian yoga school M.I.S.A (the movement for spiritual integration with the Absolute), from where the teachings then spread to many other countries around the world, through the openning of new yoga schools, all of which are also following the teachings of Grieg. Natha yoga centre is the first of these schools to be founded outside Romania. All these yoga schools, including M.I.S.A, are now part of the Atman yoga federation, which is founded on the spiritual teachings of Grieg. For many years, Natha yoga centre received its teachings from M.I.S.A, including thousands of written courses of yoga. In the last years, Natha has begun to also contribute to the creation of new teaching materials, by forming new courses, and sharing these teaching materials with the rest of the schools within the Atman federation.

The new tantra course
Natha yoga center is having the first tantra course which is structured, containing material and techniques which are taught progressively, in weekly courses, over a period of many years. This course is combining theory with practicing of techniques and thus allows the ancient tantric wisdom  to become easily grasped and put into use by the modern human being. Indeed, this tantra course, by combining the age-old tantric teachings with modern theories, is holding within it a valuable key for resolving many of the problems of the modern age and for assisting each of us in the quest for fulfillment, happiness, harmony, love and personal transformation. The tantra course introduces the notion of sexual continence – meaning the perfect and effortless control over the sexual energies. This control allows both men and women to make love indefinitely, to experience many orgasms, even hours at a time, without the sexual discharge which brings with it the loss of the energy. In this way, both men and women develop an enormous energy within their being, which will be at their disposal in any aspect of their lives. The sexual continence, as taught in Natha’s tantra course, is empowering the human being on a process of releasing and dissolving of all the frustrations, conditionings, limitations and stress which are keeping him in a state of inner lack of freedom and unhappiness. Through the teachings contained in this tantra course, life itself becomes a spiritual practice – a spiritual journey of the human being on his way to discover his true nature.

Yoga teacher training course:
Natha yoga centre also holds a course of training for aspirant yoga teachers. This in-depth training course lasts five years, and at the end of which, after passing a written and practical exam, and after handing in a special project, the graduates receive a diploma of being a certified yoga teacher. Natha’s teacher training course is developing new generations of yoga teachers in all the schools of the Atman Federation. The new yoga centre of Natha – Concordia, in Nordre Fasanvej 230, is a perfect facility for hosting this teachers training course, offering appropriate space for the large number of teacher aspirants as well as yoga halls of a high quality.

At the end of February 2009 we celebrated the graduation of over 80 new yoga teachers, who are now offering the ancient wisdom teachings of yoga all over the world, each of them working selflessly to serve his/her own community in this manner.

Graduation

Natha and the Atman Federation
Natha is a Danish people’s association, being in the same time part of the Atman International Federation of yoga schools. While Natha is completely independent from an administrative perspective, nevertheless, it has a very fruitful spiritual cooperation with the other schools of yoga within the Atman Federation. This cooperation is taking the shape of the sharing of the spiritual teachings and written materials and the exchange of teachers between the schools. Yoga teachers from Natha have gone to teach in other yoga schools in different countries, and even started other yoga schools within the Atman federation. In this manner, Natha, along side its sister schools from the Atman federation, work together in harmony to make the spiritual teachings available to people in many countries around the world, considering that spirituality is necessary for the human fulfillment and happiness, now more then ever. Thus, Natha yoga centre is dedicating itself completely to the purpose of serving human beings, and helping them to achieve spiritual transformation and a harmonious life full of joy, on every level.

Continuous Transformation:
Today, the teachings of Grieg continue to be the living spirit at the heart of Natha yoga center. Grieg’s teachings have influenced hundreds of thousands all over the world and have introduced many revolutionary notions such as ”the law of resonance”. For all those who know him or have encountered his teachings, Grieg continues to be an ever radiant source of inspiration and guidance on the spiritual path, manifesting through his own being the very ideals that all spiritual seekers aspire to. His recent announcement of the new spiritual community ”for God, through God, with God, in God” which will be formed in Romania in the summer, as well as the invitation to join this community, which he has extended to all those who feel God’s calling, have both awakened great enthusiasm in many spiritual practitioners around the world.  To know more about this amazing being, to read his biography and much more, you may visit www.gregorianbivolaru.com/whoisgb-1.php. It is Grieg’s teachings which make Natha yoga centre be a spiritual school full of life, enthusiasm and vitality, always growing and improving, a school in continuous transformation, a school for continuous transformation.

Written by Sahajananda Porslund and Arthur Lederer

natha.dk, 24.05.09


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