@George
My friend, i know what you mean. Here is more..
You remember that loathsome, constitutionally questionable provision of the recently passed National Defense Authorization Act that allows the U.S. military to indefinitely detain even American citizens only suspected of terrorist and other activities, right? Now comes its evil twin, the Enemy Expatriation Act, or H.R. 3166, which would strip you of your citizenship as well.
According to a summary of the bill, the act would amend “the Immigration and Nationality Act to include engaging in or purposefully and materially supporting hostilities against the United States to the list of acts for which U.S. nationals would lose their nationality. Further, the bill defines hostilities as any conflict subject to the laws of war.”
Like the language of the NDAA, the language of H.R. 3166 sounds innocuous, but when put together, the two pieces of legislation literally give the government the right to come into your home, arrest you on suspicion of illegal activity, and then, as a final act of humiliation, strip you of your citizenship and/or hold you indefinitely.
Does that sound like the America our founders fought – and died – for? Or the tens of millions of Americans since? Not hardly, and as word of this insidious legislation spreads, it is eliciting the strongest of negative responses.
“Never before in our lifetime has the government come so close to fully transforming into a dictatorship as it has now. The new defense bill, if coupled with this expatriation bill, makes me shudder at the thought of what else is hiding beneath our soon-to-be king’s well-guarded sleeves,” writes Rebecca DiFede, a contributing editor to Americans for Limited Government.
Granted, the term “dictator” may be a little extreme, since neither of these pieces of legislation put the enforcement onus strictly on the president. Instead, they spread responsibility for carrying out the bill provisions across several agencies – the Defense Department, Justice Department and Immigration and Customs Enforcement, as well as the Department of Homeland Security.
But building in this “plausible deniability” for the president is smoke and mirrors. The fact is, both of these bills represent an incredible encroachment on our constitutional liberties. Wait, you say. Didn’t President Obama issue a signing statement when he inked the NDAA?
Sure he did. After signing the NDAA, he released a statement that said, “Moving forward, my administration will interpret and implement the provisions described below in a manner that best preserves the flexibility on which our safety depends and upholds the values on which this country was founded.”
While that sounds reassuring, you’ll notice that what the president did not say was that he would never allow the U.S. military to detain an American citizen indefinitely. And really, if that were his intent, isn’t that what he should have said?
There is this as well. Remember that Obama personally authorized the assassination of an American citizen only suspected of conducting terrorist activities against the United States. Quite a turnaround for a man who once publicly advocated against detaining real terrorists at Guantanamo Bay. And not surprisingly, he has an echo chamber: his own administration lawyers agree with him. Go figure.
The Constitution, however, is much less ambiguous on this issue. The Fourth Amendment clearly says “the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated.” The Fifth Amendment, meanwhile, goes further, saying “no person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.”
The president, his lawyers and everyone else who is taking his side for purely political reasons are essentially saying the fact that the nation is at war changes the rules, but that’s the same argument President Franlin Delano Roosevelt used to intern tens of thousands of Japanese-Americans during World War II. Such thinking was flawed then, history revealed – and it’s flawed now.
If war, or the threat of war, or the rumor of war, negates the Constitution for American citizens, what exactly is it we are fighting to preserve?
I don’t know if you know, but thousands of Romanians have gathered here in Bucharest, and in large cities across Romania for a fourth consecutive day of growing protests. The marches started out against a controversial healthcare reform bill and widened to include anger over government austerity measures. Police have fired tear gas to disperse the crowds, and dozens of people have been arrested in a bid to quell the dissent.
Years ago i started to answer myself to the question: how many people are needed to start a revolution.. maybe you can tell me more.. I reached the conclusion that only a few..
We speak about professional manipulation, crowds go out, it was needed just a spark to start this up.. and that spark was now found in the Health Law, especially pointing to SMURD and Arafat. And yea, that started the desire to do something within the whole population.. then the infiltrated ones appeared.. and professional ones followed.. They work on more levels.. i am curious on your opinions.. To me this is very very sad.. and i worry for my country.. and for so many these kind of things that occur in the world in different tempos..
Perhaps people generally are holding protests such as Occupy Wall Street—-because they don’t know what else to do?.. While living in a world where the collective income of half the population is less than 3 percent of global household income,..where the people in the top 5 percent have nine times the average income. So the ratio between the averages in the top 5 percent and the bottom quarter is somewhere around 300 to one.., where there is such a grotesque maldistribution of income and wealth.. and so forth..
Between considering it a political issue, than an economical one.. Humanity’s problem is a spiritual problem. It has to do with what people fundamentally believe about themselves and each other–and yes, about God, and the purpose of all of life. And because more and more of us see this, it’s become very clear that we can’t paint a better picture by using the same brush strokes in the same places with the same colors we used before..
Occupy claims that they are are inspired by “Arab Spring.” How’s that working these days? The idealistic types have been shunted aside and the Muslim Brotherhood is grabbing power. Does any consider that a desirable outcome?
Occupy proclaims that “The only solution is World Revolution.” Is that, according to communists, socialists, and anarchists, a desirable outcome? Bill Ayers, the ex-Weather underground terrorist, showed up to mentor OccupyChicago a few weeks ago. ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E1hKn7v9bs ) .. how good is that really??
@Shaam
Just because a political movement purports to support the homeless and fringe members of society does not validate indeed the goodness of that movement. I too was attracted by the Left because it addressed the concerns of the marginalized. I get that people on the Left generally have big hearts and the best of intentions. Me too.
However, all leftist movements from the French Revolution on, including the the Soviet and Chinese communist revolutions, talk the big talk about helping the downtrodden, but much more often than not, the worst sorts of people end up in power and perpetrate the worst sorts of horror.
I too have a long history on the Left and recognized immediately that Occupy was led by the usual communists, socialists and anarchists who are looking to destabilize society so they can seize power. Check all the red and the black at the Occupy website, http://occupywallst.org/ .
@Mihai
I fully agree..
I also see many in the New Age and Left camps have assumed great things about conservatives and Occupy that may not be true.. and should be careful of their assumptions. Many that had followed the Left had concluded the policies of the Left mostly did not help people in marginal situations and in general. There is a huge difference between feeling empathy and supporting constructive policies.
Perhaps we can as well consider the destruction of the black family due to Great Society social reforms, which even the liberal Daniel Moynihan recognized. Those policies were implemented with the best of intentions, but they boomeranged and now we seem to have a permanent black underclass and a pathological hip hop culture. Notice how well blacks have benefited from Obama’s policies. And so on..
Aloha.. from Hawaii
From reading history I saw that Leftist movements like Occupy usually don’t end well — look back to the 1968 radicals and the riots which essentially elected Nixon. Then there are the communist movements which are as horrific as anything in human history.
Check the background of Occupy and you will find plenty of hard left radicals behind the curtains. Is this really what you support?
@thor
It is not the first time in the recent history when a revolution is “stolen” by the hyenas that are awaiting in the shadow for their best moment. And this is possible based on the ignorance that the masses are maintained into.
That is also why they are trying to keep away any real information and to destroy any real schooling system: to keep a great advantage in case of any unrest. But this time it seems that many are using the alternative way of learning… and this is making the “iluminati” loosing their temper and do mistakes.
this article seems to be very relevant right now, seeing how things are progressing with the so called ‘arab spring’ – with the violence getting worse in egypt, in syria, libua and more. alos in europe we see these signs of revolution – in grece, italy spain and more. also this ‘occupy wall street’ movement that was mentioned here. i think that without a true spiritual awakening, all htese revolutions will not change the elite, or will just replace the elite with another elite. isnt this the case?
@Shaam
This occupy movement is following in the footprints of other similar movements in the 70′s. It is only because the easiness of information circulation that it might become a little stronger but it will take some special awakening process for a significant number of people to really make a shift in their understanding of the world and start to really occupy their rightful position in the world… and then the elites will have to make a very hard choice.
But it seems that God’s plans are not fitting with the plans the elites have for the world.
Hello Mihai, how are you? I’am god.
I want to show you my web proyect that I’am dreaming years ago.
is http://www.planetaconciencia.com, take a look and tellme if you like, and what things I could add.
I’ll hope see soon there!
Big huge
Thank God you’ve published this before they’ve killed Osama (or more likely before they’ve announced it…) !
If you were lived in USA, you have been banned during these days of “American pride”.
ianuarie 17th, 2012 at %H:%M
@George
My friend, i know what you mean. Here is more..
You remember that loathsome, constitutionally questionable provision of the recently passed National Defense Authorization Act that allows the U.S. military to indefinitely detain even American citizens only suspected of terrorist and other activities, right? Now comes its evil twin, the Enemy Expatriation Act, or H.R. 3166, which would strip you of your citizenship as well.
According to a summary of the bill, the act would amend “the Immigration and Nationality Act to include engaging in or purposefully and materially supporting hostilities against the United States to the list of acts for which U.S. nationals would lose their nationality. Further, the bill defines hostilities as any conflict subject to the laws of war.”
Like the language of the NDAA, the language of H.R. 3166 sounds innocuous, but when put together, the two pieces of legislation literally give the government the right to come into your home, arrest you on suspicion of illegal activity, and then, as a final act of humiliation, strip you of your citizenship and/or hold you indefinitely.
Does that sound like the America our founders fought – and died – for? Or the tens of millions of Americans since? Not hardly, and as word of this insidious legislation spreads, it is eliciting the strongest of negative responses.
“Never before in our lifetime has the government come so close to fully transforming into a dictatorship as it has now. The new defense bill, if coupled with this expatriation bill, makes me shudder at the thought of what else is hiding beneath our soon-to-be king’s well-guarded sleeves,” writes Rebecca DiFede, a contributing editor to Americans for Limited Government.
Granted, the term “dictator” may be a little extreme, since neither of these pieces of legislation put the enforcement onus strictly on the president. Instead, they spread responsibility for carrying out the bill provisions across several agencies – the Defense Department, Justice Department and Immigration and Customs Enforcement, as well as the Department of Homeland Security.
But building in this “plausible deniability” for the president is smoke and mirrors. The fact is, both of these bills represent an incredible encroachment on our constitutional liberties. Wait, you say. Didn’t President Obama issue a signing statement when he inked the NDAA?
Sure he did. After signing the NDAA, he released a statement that said, “Moving forward, my administration will interpret and implement the provisions described below in a manner that best preserves the flexibility on which our safety depends and upholds the values on which this country was founded.”
While that sounds reassuring, you’ll notice that what the president did not say was that he would never allow the U.S. military to detain an American citizen indefinitely. And really, if that were his intent, isn’t that what he should have said?
There is this as well. Remember that Obama personally authorized the assassination of an American citizen only suspected of conducting terrorist activities against the United States. Quite a turnaround for a man who once publicly advocated against detaining real terrorists at Guantanamo Bay. And not surprisingly, he has an echo chamber: his own administration lawyers agree with him. Go figure.
The Constitution, however, is much less ambiguous on this issue. The Fourth Amendment clearly says “the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated.” The Fifth Amendment, meanwhile, goes further, saying “no person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.”
The president, his lawyers and everyone else who is taking his side for purely political reasons are essentially saying the fact that the nation is at war changes the rules, but that’s the same argument President Franlin Delano Roosevelt used to intern tens of thousands of Japanese-Americans during World War II. Such thinking was flawed then, history revealed – and it’s flawed now.
If war, or the threat of war, or the rumor of war, negates the Constitution for American citizens, what exactly is it we are fighting to preserve?
Sources:
http://www.naturalnews.com/034537_NDAA_Bill_of_Rights_Obama.html
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d112:1:./temp/~bdlBHV:@@@D&summ2=m&|/home/LegislativeData.php|
http://www.naturalnews.com/034587_anti-government_targets_Obama.html
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-lawyers-citizens-targeted-war-us-154313473.html
http://reason.com/archives/2004/12/01/indefensible-internment
U.S. Constitution: http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/034661_Enemy_Expatriation_Act_citizenship_America.html#ixzz1js5jRVEW
ianuarie 17th, 2012 at %H:%M
I don’t know if you know, but thousands of Romanians have gathered here in Bucharest, and in large cities across Romania for a fourth consecutive day of growing protests. The marches started out against a controversial healthcare reform bill and widened to include anger over government austerity measures. Police have fired tear gas to disperse the crowds, and dozens of people have been arrested in a bid to quell the dissent.
Years ago i started to answer myself to the question: how many people are needed to start a revolution.. maybe you can tell me more.. I reached the conclusion that only a few..
We speak about professional manipulation, crowds go out, it was needed just a spark to start this up.. and that spark was now found in the Health Law, especially pointing to SMURD and Arafat. And yea, that started the desire to do something within the whole population.. then the infiltrated ones appeared.. and professional ones followed.. They work on more levels.. i am curious on your opinions.. To me this is very very sad.. and i worry for my country.. and for so many these kind of things that occur in the world in different tempos..
decembrie 3rd, 2011 at %H:%M
Perhaps people generally are holding protests such as Occupy Wall Street—-because they don’t know what else to do?.. While living in a world where the collective income of half the population is less than 3 percent of global household income,..where the people in the top 5 percent have nine times the average income. So the ratio between the averages in the top 5 percent and the bottom quarter is somewhere around 300 to one.., where there is such a grotesque maldistribution of income and wealth.. and so forth..
Between considering it a political issue, than an economical one.. Humanity’s problem is a spiritual problem. It has to do with what people fundamentally believe about themselves and each other–and yes, about God, and the purpose of all of life. And because more and more of us see this, it’s become very clear that we can’t paint a better picture by using the same brush strokes in the same places with the same colors we used before..
decembrie 1st, 2011 at %H:%M
.. the question in the end was rhetorical
.. for the people supporting this..
I think i know your opinion..
Best to you!
noiembrie 30th, 2011 at %H:%M
Occupy claims that they are are inspired by “Arab Spring.” How’s that working these days? The idealistic types have been shunted aside and the Muslim Brotherhood is grabbing power. Does any consider that a desirable outcome?
Occupy proclaims that “The only solution is World Revolution.” Is that, according to communists, socialists, and anarchists, a desirable outcome? Bill Ayers, the ex-Weather underground terrorist, showed up to mentor OccupyChicago a few weeks ago. ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E1hKn7v9bs ) .. how good is that really??
noiembrie 30th, 2011 at %H:%M
@Shaam
Just because a political movement purports to support the homeless and fringe members of society does not validate indeed the goodness of that movement. I too was attracted by the Left because it addressed the concerns of the marginalized. I get that people on the Left generally have big hearts and the best of intentions. Me too.
However, all leftist movements from the French Revolution on, including the the Soviet and Chinese communist revolutions, talk the big talk about helping the downtrodden, but much more often than not, the worst sorts of people end up in power and perpetrate the worst sorts of horror.
I too have a long history on the Left and recognized immediately that Occupy was led by the usual communists, socialists and anarchists who are looking to destabilize society so they can seize power. Check all the red and the black at the Occupy website, http://occupywallst.org/ .
noiembrie 30th, 2011 at %H:%M
@Mihai
I fully agree..
I also see many in the New Age and Left camps have assumed great things about conservatives and Occupy that may not be true.. and should be careful of their assumptions. Many that had followed the Left had concluded the policies of the Left mostly did not help people in marginal situations and in general. There is a huge difference between feeling empathy and supporting constructive policies.
Perhaps we can as well consider the destruction of the black family due to Great Society social reforms, which even the liberal Daniel Moynihan recognized. Those policies were implemented with the best of intentions, but they boomeranged and now we seem to have a permanent black underclass and a pathological hip hop culture. Notice how well blacks have benefited from Obama’s policies. And so on..
Aloha.. from Hawaii
From reading history I saw that Leftist movements like Occupy usually don’t end well — look back to the 1968 radicals and the riots which essentially elected Nixon. Then there are the communist movements which are as horrific as anything in human history.
Check the background of Occupy and you will find plenty of hard left radicals behind the curtains. Is this really what you support?
noiembrie 23rd, 2011 at %H:%M
@thor
It is not the first time in the recent history when a revolution is “stolen” by the hyenas that are awaiting in the shadow for their best moment. And this is possible based on the ignorance that the masses are maintained into.
That is also why they are trying to keep away any real information and to destroy any real schooling system: to keep a great advantage in case of any unrest. But this time it seems that many are using the alternative way of learning… and this is making the “iluminati” loosing their temper and do mistakes.
noiembrie 22nd, 2011 at %H:%M
this article seems to be very relevant right now, seeing how things are progressing with the so called ‘arab spring’ – with the violence getting worse in egypt, in syria, libua and more. alos in europe we see these signs of revolution – in grece, italy spain and more. also this ‘occupy wall street’ movement that was mentioned here. i think that without a true spiritual awakening, all htese revolutions will not change the elite, or will just replace the elite with another elite. isnt this the case?
noiembrie 21st, 2011 at %H:%M
@Shaam
This occupy movement is following in the footprints of other similar movements in the 70′s. It is only because the easiness of information circulation that it might become a little stronger but it will take some special awakening process for a significant number of people to really make a shift in their understanding of the world and start to really occupy their rightful position in the world… and then the elites will have to make a very hard choice.
But it seems that God’s plans are not fitting with the plans the elites have for the world.
octombrie 23rd, 2011 at %H:%M
Here is a pretty interesting opinion on what is happening regarding the occupy wall street movement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lW4J1e2WW68
mai 17th, 2011 at %H:%M
Brave New Denmark?
http://righteousalliance.blogspot.com/2009/07/brave-new-denmark.html
mai 13th, 2011 at %H:%M
Hello Mihai, how are you? I’am god.
I want to show you my web proyect that I’am dreaming years ago.
is http://www.planetaconciencia.com, take a look and tellme if you like, and what things I could add.
I’ll hope see soon there!
Big huge
Sebastián
mai 6th, 2011 at %H:%M
Thank God you’ve published this before they’ve killed Osama (or more likely before they’ve announced it…)
!
If you were lived in USA, you have been banned during these days of “American pride”.